IRC log for #brlcad on 20141122

00:20.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63547 (brlcad/branches/qtged/src/qbrlcad/console.cxx brlcad/branches/qtged/src/qbrlcad/console.h): Add basic command history.
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02:36.29 brlcad starseeker: looks like FLANN is set up for exactly what we'd need for fast point lookups, bsd licensed, and sample code is pretty much spot-on
02:36.38 brlcad http://www.cs.ubc.ca/research/flann/uploads/FLANN/flann_manual-1.8.4.pdf
02:37.38 brlcad it looks like something we could already be leveraging in a number of places
02:37.48 brlcad smells a handful of GCI tasks!
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03:59.46 brlcad does anyone know if archer has nirt/query_ray integrated somehow?
04:00.07 brlcad either interactive where you can click on points with the mouse, or even a command-line command?
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04:38.21 clock brlcad, how many spheres can you put into a scene in brlcad before brlcad becomes unusable?
04:40.42 brlcad clock: depends on a ton of factors -- you can try it
04:41.12 brlcad the sphflake program creates tons of spheres exponentially
04:41.49 clock brlcad, i guess you dont know it hahaha :)
04:43.50 brlcad whatever, it's a totally loaded question
04:44.23 brlcad I've hit the limit testing performance many times and ... as I said, it depends WILDLY on many factors
04:44.46 brlcad it could be millions or billions or ... far more
04:45.21 brlcad so yeah, whatever, I guess you're too lazy to try it :P
04:46.05 clock brlcad, "A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt)"
04:46.18 clock brlcad, in my opinion its not a loaded question at all
04:47.27 brlcad I don't see what at all is controversial about the question
04:47.39 brlcad or what guilt would be involved
04:47.56 brlcad you asked for a number
04:48.37 clock brlcad, I feel disrespected and groundlessly accused when I ask "how many spheres can you put into a scene in brlcad before brlcad becomes unusable?" and you say " it's a totally loaded question"
04:49.21 clock brlcad, then I feel disrespected, abused and gaslighted when I then quote the definition of loaded question "A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt)" and you say "I don't see what at all is controversial about the question or what guilt would be involved"
04:50.10 clock brlcad, and I feel disrepsected and gaslighted when you say "you asked for a number"
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04:51.22 clock brlcad, I feel grossly abused and grossly disrespected when I just tell you how I feel and you kick me
04:52.17 clock brlcad, I dont need a software whose support is grossly abusive
04:52.28 clock brlcad, BRL-CAD ended on ROnja, there are other free alternatives
04:52.30 brlcad like I said, perhaps you should leave if you feel that way
04:52.30 clock brlcad, bye
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04:54.29 clock brlcad, I feel contempt
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17:28.00 ishwerdas For deploying ogv on server I would need nodejs and mongodb installed and then after that I can bundle OGV and deploy it on brlcad servers.
17:28.33 ishwerdas I would be really thankful if that can be provided. :)
17:32.39 brlcad they're installing now
17:34.20 ishwerdas thanks :)
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18:33.29 starseeker brlcad: Archer does have a nirt-like capabiilty, but I don't know if it's integrated nirt itself
18:33.51 brlcad mouse clicks?
18:34.06 starseeker I believe so
18:34.08 brlcad command line?
18:34.13 starseeker checks command line
18:34.44 brlcad does the mouse method give the entry and exit hit point value?
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18:34.56 brlcad or just show the points like mged?
18:35.22 starseeker I know it does the latter - give me a second and I'll check, apparently I didn't remember to build after my last configure
18:36.51 starseeker ok, looks like it has a command line nirt command with nirt output on the Archer prompt
18:37.40 brlcad default to view center or you have to specify everything?
18:37.55 starseeker defaults to view center
18:38.02 brlcad okay, cool, so then good enough
18:38.26 brlcad removes it from his list
18:38.54 brlcad up to 80 or so categories of tasks based on several discussions and old task cards
18:39.32 starseeker brlcad: if we're going to check out FLANN (which I think is an awesome idea, bty) we might want to look at nanoflann: https://github.com/jlblancoc/nanoflann
18:40.19 starseeker iirc, the OpenVSP guys wound up going with nanoflann
18:40.52 starseeker header only, so a really easy integration
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18:42.05 brlcad good idea, either sounds great to me
18:42.19 brlcad PCL uses FLANN under the hood
18:43.06 starseeker nods - from what I recall last time I looked at it, flann/nanoflann are pretty much the gold standard for that particular problem domain
18:44.20 brlcad if that were ever integrate PCL for the points primitive, we would get one or the other
18:44.47 brlcad can revisit the next time a need comes up
18:44.50 starseeker is contemplating gutting the display-specific functions out of libtclcad into libdm... given the API isn't anywhere near stable final form anyway, it would make what is currently tcl specific logic more generally accessible
18:45.16 starseeker PCL would be a fairly heavy dependency - not saying it isn't worth it, but they pull in a lot of other stuff
18:47.24 brlcad yeah, I know...
18:47.49 brlcad just a thought .. would be a great project in itself that would have to prove the value before we accept integration
18:48.00 starseeker nods
18:48.39 starseeker yeah, thought so - they require boost
18:49.01 brlcad of course they do :)
18:49.42 starseeker 's stance on boost is all-or-nothing - either dodge it, or go whole hog and use the CMake build to ensure the whole thing is there
18:50.09 starseeker way too much work to pick and choose pieces and try to get them working - had really bad luck with that the few times I've tried it
18:51.08 starseeker far rather accept the larger download than try to maintain that piecemeal headache again... that's just me though
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18:51.59 brlcad and at that point, it might make sense to push all deps we don't fork out of the tree into a different module
18:52.06 brlcad but that's not this year I think :)
18:52.19 starseeker nods - we'll probably be at that point someday with Qt anyway
18:52.26 starseeker agreed
19:18.20 brlcad if ishwerdas returns, mongodb is installed
19:18.31 brlcad ~memo for ishwerdas mongodb is installed
19:18.31 infobot brlcad: okay
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