IRC log for #brlcad on 20150101

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01:26.37 Notify 02GCI:Melange * 4639899508539392 : Task Reopened - Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.
02:00.09 gcibot Happy new year to everyone, att: the mantainer, Ignacio :)
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04:02.34 Silver9450 Hi, I'm new to BRL-CAD. I read the README.txt file, while it says "Using it requires about 6 GB of free space", I experience a shortage from my hard drive. Can I use my hard drive enclosure instead?
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05:17.16 starseeker O.o blocking archive.org, github, and sourceforge???
05:17.48 YashM In india yah
05:18.16 YashM "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS."
05:18.34 starseeker what, did SCO infiltrate the Indian government or something?
05:19.02 starseeker uh...
05:19.28 YashM but using Google DNS i can bypass it
05:19.29 YashM :P
05:19.59 starseeker great - you're going to knock out Google in India
05:20.05 starseeker that
05:20.15 starseeker 's amazing - why the whole site(s)?
05:20.39 YashM That's the easiest way right?
05:20.53 YashM They're not going to block specific subdomains so people can browse and see what's in it
05:21.07 YashM And if Google gets knocked out, I will use a VPN
05:21.10 starseeker in the sense that blowing off your whole foot is the easiest way to solve the problem of trimming toe nails, yeah...
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05:21.55 starseeker shakes his head - hope it gets resolved quickly
05:22.22 YashM They probably didn't think that much, "OMG, this site has bad content, block the site"
05:23.13 starseeker well, I suppose it's a good way to see how vital github and sourceforge are to the Indian IT economic sector...
05:23.55 YashM the programmers will always find a way to bypass though
05:24.45 YashM sourceforge is not banned tho
05:24.50 YashM github is
05:24.52 starseeker ah
05:25.06 YashM guess ISIS supports FOSS :P
05:25.11 starseeker so slashdot had it wrong (surprise)
05:25.47 starseeker can't imagine how video sharing sites are going to survive if that sort of thing keeps up
05:26.06 starseeker or wikipedia, for that matter... basically any site with user posted content
05:26.24 YashM yea
05:26.38 YashM "Let's just ban the whole internet"
05:27.05 starseeker winces - I wish I could be sure they won't think of that...
05:40.44 shardulc Sean, if you're here, have you created the task to write a dead code-detecting script?
05:46.39 shardulc startseeker, are you there?
05:46.44 shardulc starseeker
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08:55.01 silver9450 Will it be able for BRL-CAD to run on my external hard disk? (btw I tried to send the message twice but I seemed to go offline because of bad internet connections)
08:58.59 YashM silver9450, why don't you try?
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09:01.05 silver9450 I'm currently using virtual box, I tried to import BRL-CAD, and I changed the storage to my external HD, it didn't seem to work
09:43.28 mihaineacsu silver9450: how did you "import" BRL-CAD?
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10:33.02 Notify 02GCI:helix * 6094206841913344 : Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
10:38.18 Notify 02GCI:helix * 6094206841913344 : Sorry for taking too much time. - I got busy with school work and also this is the biggest task here which is why I took so much time. I went with the script on the...
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10:48.53 silver9450 mihaineacsu: here's a screenshot, mine's in Chinese. https://images.plurk.com/1kQNzTKuVfyh6zvpxoFpe1.jpg
11:06.11 silver9450 I received this message and I had no idea what was going on?
11:06.14 silver9450 brlcad@brlcad-vm:~$ svn up brlcad-svn-trunk svn: Working copy 'brlcad-svn-trunk' locked svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
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12:19.55 adityagulati are any new tasks going to come
13:09.19 YashM Does anyone know which parameters are mandatory and which ones not in stl-g?
13:14.40 YashM nvm
13:20.17 silver9450 I entered "B gcirocks.ebm ae 35 25 zoom 1.5 l gcirocks.ebm rt" into MGED, ending up with a bunch of error message starting with db_lookup(ae) failed: ae does not exist
13:21.13 silver9450 Does anyone know why?
13:28.10 YashM Any mentor here?
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13:36.15 Notify 02GCI:silver9450 * 5327918221754368 : Error messages - mged> B gcirocks.ebm ae 35 25 zoom 1.5 l gcirocks.ebm rt db_lookup(ae) failed: ae does not exist This followed with a bunch of error...
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13:53.48 Notify 02GCI:rohit_agarwal * 5836136417067008 : A request - Can you please extend the deadline by 2 days. I got a little busy and couldn't complete the video. Thanks in advance.
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17:35.15 *** topic/#brlcad is Topic for #brlcad: BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Welcome GCI 2014 participants! If you're participating, be patient when asking questions... we're very busy and sometimes have packed schedules. We will respond if you are still on IRC: learn screen+irssi.
17:54.10 andromeda-galaxy gcibot, random brlcad
17:54.11 gcibot andromeda-galaxy, random task in brlcad: https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6418050127495168
17:54.11 gcibot BRL-CAD || Beginner: Install and run BRL-CAD! #11 || Open || Hardeep Singh Rai, Ishwerdas
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18:22.20 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5773120388464640 : Where is the axis? - It needs a shaft to work. Do you have an idea where the intake and exhaust are?
18:22.30 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5773120388464640 : Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to...
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18:34.08 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5327918221754368 : Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
18:34.49 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5327918221754368 : None - It was small but I found the "Steve" in your image ;)
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18:39.26 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5874616018927616 : You should post a full screen shot - as it is written at point 6 in this task's description.
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18:40.20 andromeda-galaxy ~seen rossberg
18:40.24 infobot andromeda-galaxy: i haven't seen 'rossberg'
18:40.29 andromeda-galaxy ~seen d_rossberg
18:40.29 infobot d_rossberg <~rossberg@66-118-151-70.static.sagonet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 9d 1h 23m 14s ago, saying: 'that's the base for writing code for it'.
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18:52.26 YashM anyone here
18:52.34 YashM http://i.imgur.com/AQzCcT3.png
18:56.36 andromeda-galaxy rt with ambient occlusion takes *so long*...
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18:58.29 d_rossberg YashM: looks like a problem with the spaces in the file name (of the .g file), try tp put it between quotation marks
19:05.59 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: for ambient occlusion, I've been rendering with ambSlow=1 and ambSamples=256, are those pretty reasonable defaults? (-s4096, also)
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19:13.51 d_rossberg andromeda-galaxy: to be honest, no idea; i've never used this settings
19:14.33 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: oh well... when I was doing the renders for the gerotor + hole for shaft just now, I realized that it took >10 minutes for it to render that simples scene with those settings, which is why I asked...
19:17.26 d_rossberg ambSamples=256 could cause it to shoot 256 rays for every pixel (and use the mean then) which is pretty much
19:18.54 andromeda-galaxy ahhh....
19:19.18 andromeda-galaxy oh well... maybe I'll try sticking with samples=128, unfortunately it seems like for the ao rendering to work well it does need to have some fairly large number of rays-per-pixel...
19:25.05 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: by the way, for https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5773120388464640, I left out the intake/exhaust because most (pretty much all) of the descriptions/diagrams/papers about gerotors omitted them.
19:25.06 gcibot BRL-CAD || Model a gerotor in 3D using BRL-CAD || NeedsReview (2 days 14 hrs 10 min) || Popescu Andrei, Sean
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19:37.05 Notify 02GCI:ralpt3748752_qejwhe * 5292150220652544 : Question to work - How to find the coordinates of points on the surface hyp?
19:45.52 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5773120388464640 : None - Shouldn't be the rotation axis hole round? And how about modelling the shaft too?
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19:46.18 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: I tried modeling the shaft as well, but that blocked too much of the geometry of the pump
19:46.54 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: my thinking with the shaft was that the pump assembly could just be dropped onto any rotating shaft as part of another larger assembly
19:46.59 andromeda-galaxy so making the hole square makes sense
19:47.07 d_rossberg omitting the intake/exhaust may be ok, but the rest should work (if printed with a 3d printer)
19:47.39 andromeda-galaxy I think that this should work.. there are no overlaps, so it should be possible to just drop it on a rotating shaft and try turning it
19:49.28 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: do you see what I mean about the advantages of using a square shaft hole?
19:52.06 d_rossberg ok, you should write it is a comment for your task and set it ready for review again
19:52.34 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: sure, one minute
19:52.37 d_rossberg btw, do yo know where the intake and exhaust are?
19:53.26 andromeda-galaxy I think that usually the whole pump assembly is in a casing, which has two holes on the large sides
19:53.47 andromeda-galaxy ofcourse, modelling that would also obscure the actual pump assembly a lot because it requires having the case
19:56.00 Notify 02GCI:o7p9bxbnyj * 5773120388464640 : None - I tried modeling the shaft as well, but that blocked too much of the geometry of the pump. My thinking with the shaft was that the pump assembly could...
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19:56.13 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: okay, done!
19:57.20 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5773120388464640 : Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
19:58.49 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: btw, do you know when the next batch of tasks might be going up?
20:02.20 d_rossberg sadly no, i'm waiting for some of mine too
20:03.04 andromeda-galaxy ah well...
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20:08.13 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: one other thing --- do you have any idea how to build BRL-CAD's doxygen?
20:10.01 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 5292150220652544 : For example with the nirt program/command - It shots a single ray.
20:14.07 MarcTannous andromeda-galaxy: did you do any of the doxygen header tasks?
20:14.20 andromeda-galaxy MarcTannous: not yet, but I'm considering doing one
20:14.40 d_rossberg "make dox" otr "make doxigen"?
20:15.11 andromeda-galaxy d_rossberg: thanks, I couldn't find documentation anywhere...
20:15.42 MarcTannous d_rossberg: IS a bag of triangles a primitive?
20:16.16 andromeda-galaxy MarcTannous: hmm?
20:16.44 MarcTannous andromeda-galaxy: Have got to do a class diagram for coreinterface's primitives
20:17.20 MarcTannous Not sure whether Cone,Ellipsoid,Torus & Sphere are the only primitives or not
20:17.24 andromeda-galaxy ahh... I believe so, in the main brl-cad repo at least, since it has a dir under src/librt/primitives
20:17.57 MarcTannous d_rossberg: Can you give me a list of all the objects coreInterface considers primitives?
20:19.22 d_rossberg MarcTannous: look at the rt^3 branch at include/brlcad
20:20.04 MarcTannous yup
20:20.07 MarcTannous That's what I am looking at
20:20.24 d_rossberg every class with "public Object" is a primitive
20:20.36 MarcTannous ok, thank you
20:21.02 MarcTannous https://svn.code.sf.net/p/brlcad/code/rt%5E3/trunk/include/brlcad/Unknown.h what's this though?
20:21.41 andromeda-galaxy MarcTannous: I believe that that's used to hold references to primtives of unknown types
20:22.14 d_rossberg good point, this is a place holder for every BRL-CAD primitive which has no interface class yet
20:22.45 MarcTannous this class diagram will be pretty huge then
20:22.54 d_rossberg and yes, bot is a primitive
20:24.30 d_rossberg the class diagram could contain a tree-like list of all the primitives below the Object
20:24.35 MarcTannous yup
20:25.07 MarcTannous there's more than 10 primitives and each one of them has a few constructors/functions
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20:30.31 Notify 02GCI:rossberg * 6383010643443712 : None - You should create regions from the different logo elements and put all these regions in one group.
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20:32.00 d_rossberg you should mention the classes only, not the methods
20:35.22 d_rossberg the result could look like this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Uml_diagram.svg
20:59.51 Notify 02GCI:judebirch * 6383010643443712 : Questions - Sorry for asking, but how would you create regions and groups in archer? I researched it, and I found a command in MGED but when I open the .g file...
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22:12.04 gcibot For GCIL users, added new update button. http://gcil.cf/all/
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