IRC log for #brlcad on 20150205

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01:00.17 brlcad https://www.jasondavies.com/animated-bezier/
01:07.14 nmz787_i brlcad: that's super cool
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01:21.31 starseeker interesting: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/openmanufacturing/emYMidGlaRA - it might be worth studying the differences between the openSCAD gui and our own
01:27.07 nmz787_i hah, that was my conversation originally
01:29.06 nmz787_i the previous email to John included this comment "Hmm, I know there was an openSCAD/openCasCade person in the #brlcad IRC room talking about conversions or interchange, but I'm not sure if a good format/converter exists today to interface with BRL-CAD."
01:29.23 nmz787_i not sure who that openscad/opencascade person in here was
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01:58.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 64144 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_surface.cpp: profiler identified ON_Surface::UnwrapUV as a hot spot; calculate uv unwrap position directly instead of iterating to it
02:22.17 brlcad nmz787: modeling that goes anywhere near 0.0005 or smaller (e.g., subatomic) is possible, but it requires modification of a few compile-time constants -- i.e., you don't get that range out-of-the-box, the defaults are geared for typical CAD engineering model constraints and sizes
02:24.33 brlcad also, kintel and teepee are openscad devs
02:34.54 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: oh, by the way --- this isn't immediately relevant to anything, but it's something that I've been wondering about for a while --- the web page says that BRL-CAD's primary purpose is ballistic/electrodynamic analysis, but I can't find any information anywhere on how to use it for those types of analysis (I've looked over the documentation page several times, sorry if I missed something...)
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03:16.26 brlcad starseeker: is this fixed? https://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/discussion/362509/thread/437427c4/?limit=25
03:18.22 brlcad andromeda-galaxy: the ballistic/analysis purposes are not available to the public, but they are nonetheless the primary active-use purpose
03:18.52 brlcad this can be explained better, and I'm hoping our website redesign will address this
03:23.34 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: ahh, that makes sense...
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04:09.10 starseeker brlcad: I believe that was fixed by r63433
04:29.11 brlcad starseeker: okay cool .. I thought the restructuring did it
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04:30.09 nmz787_i and idea what the google sketchup format consists of, as far as how they represent things?
04:36.45 brlcad nmz787: I don't believe they expose the user to their internal representation
04:39.30 brlcad nmz787: given they export collada, that's a good indication that it's probably some sort of boundary representation internally that they export to a variety of polygonal formats
04:40.41 nmz787_i huh, cool, thanks
04:44.27 nmz787_i brlcad: is there any educational (childrens) information/promotional material for BRLCAD? my co-worker used some simple tcl commands to generate a new gear thing for his mom's school class pencil sharpener, then threw the STL at his 3D printer and only took around 35 mins to print... so he's going to take the printer into the kids class and show them the process and have it print while they're at lunch or something, and show the
04:44.28 nmz787_i finished product after
04:44.45 nmz787_i sooo, idk anything good for a sticker or something with shapes and a wireframe?
04:45.14 nmz787_i him showing them his model might be good enough for the modelling aspect
04:45.47 nmz787_i but it might be cool to have something to associate the BRLCAD name
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05:12.22 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Congrats to all our GCI 2014 participants! Grand Prize winners: Peter and Marc. Runner up: Yash. Other Finalists: Raptor and Aditya.
06:16.06 brlcad calculated stats on our backlog:
06:16.10 brlcad 438 TODO
06:16.10 brlcad 142 BUGS
06:16.10 brlcad 113 patches.json
06:16.10 brlcad 100 bugs.json 66 feature-requests.json 34 support-requests.json
06:16.10 brlcad ===
06:16.12 brlcad 893 TOTAL
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06:17.18 brlcad there's undoubtedly some overlap on BUGS and bugs.json as well as TODO and *requests.json
06:17.28 brlcad but best case that's still
06:17.58 brlcad ~893 - 100 - 66 - 34
06:17.58 infobot 693
06:19.22 brlcad nmz787_i: there has been over the years, but I don't have anything handy or know of anything that'd be relevant for 3d printing at the moment
06:20.00 brlcad certainly doable and really easy to set up (if one has learned mged's commands)
06:21.06 brlcad we do have a couple GCI scripts that create a simple piece of geometry for this very purpose (a toy car), the intent being to create a little tutorial that can be 3d printed
06:21.31 brlcad but they're not ready for use (gci just finished), someone would need to pull the materials together
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08:28.59 nmz787_i brlcad: oh my buddy has something to 3D print that is relevant to the classroom... some gear that the pencil sharpener wore out :) but showing kids a toy car would probably get them excited
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11:28.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:DJTMM 1990 * 0 /wiki/User:DJTMM_1990:
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12:53.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64145 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cylinder.cpp: Start thinking about planar volume approaches
12:58.36 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64146 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cylinder.cpp: fix arb8 generation
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13:59.53 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64147 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cylinder.cpp and 2 others): start putting a skeleton in place for arb processing
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15:48.05 sofat brlcad, hello
15:48.17 sofat i have done some work in docbook
15:49.03 sofat i have started to convert the brlcad manual documentation in docbook
15:53.55 sofat there is link
15:53.55 sofat please check
15:53.56 sofat http://202.164.53.122/~hitesh/brlcadxml/first.xml
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18:51.58 brlcad nmz787: especially when they see that they can probably make a better car and get it printed too (the toy car examples we have were made by high school students)
18:53.04 brlcad sofat: which brlcad manual?
18:54.13 sofat doc/html/manuals/Anim_Tutorial
18:55.32 sofat there is html pages
18:55.42 sofat i convert these pages in docbook
18:55.59 sofat xml and xsl
18:56.55 sofat brlcad, i am going right direction ?
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19:14.07 sofat brlcad, please gave me response
19:25.22 sofat I am working on all text format documents to convert in docbook
19:25.34 sofat as well as html documentation
19:41.39 sofat brlcad, i going to sleep there is mid night i will talk you tomorrow
19:41.47 sofat Good night
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19:58.27 anishshah101 Hi, I wanted to participate in GSOC 2015 with BRL CAD, any suggestions?
19:59.28 anishshah101 I am a javascript developer and did my GSoC 2014 with an organization called Public Lab.
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20:20.37 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64148 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_planar.cpp: More setup for arb analysis
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21:03.52 brlcad anishshah101: you should try to make a useful patch contribution
21:04.37 brlcad in any area, but something actually useful (e.g., that fixes a bug or clearly improves the usability of something, or implements a feature that did not exist before)
21:05.18 brlcad thousands of possibilities, your job is to find and do one without being a burden on others ;)
21:08.44 anishshah101 sure, can you point me towards the bug tracker, forum where you discuss feature additions?
21:15.06 brlcad if someone needs to give you information that is very easily found with a web search, wouldn't that qualify as being a burden?
21:15.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64149 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_planar.cpp: More pondering of situations where we need to break down polyhedron shapes.
21:15.24 brlcad is not trying to be rude, just that you might want to rethink your approach
21:16.16 brlcad we discuss here and on our brlcad-devel mailing list (see HACKING file for more details)
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21:29.53 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64150 brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixelswap.c: add argument in Usage, and go with bu_getopt error messages, since -d with no argument led to 'Bad flag' message
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21:51.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64151 brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixelswap.c: if only 1 argument, we have run-with-no-arguments situation; consider it NOT to be 'missing pixel value(s)'
21:55.52 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64152 brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixelswap.c: remove a pair of brackets from Usage, because we are required to use < and >
21:57.21 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64153 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_planar.cpp: more notes
21:58.39 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64154 brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixelswap.c: oops, left in some trailing blanks
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