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07:04.00 hsinghc Hello! I am interested in contributing to GSoC'15 at BRL-CAD.Someone please get me started. I have previous experience in C,C++ algorithmic programming,machine learning and basic computer vision with open cv. I am interested in some specific projects and the main CAD modelling in general.
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15:30.26 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jorge Sosa * 0 /wiki/User:Jorge_Sosa:
15:30.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64352 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cone.cpp: Start setting up for partial cones
15:30.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64351 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/CMakeLists.txt: Add the exp2cxx target to the depends list of the schema target, in case its presence in the custom_command depends list isn't enough...
15:30.37 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64354 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cone.cpp: Try using a slight tweak of the cylinder arb logic for cones. If this works, probably need to refactor arb object creation into its own function.
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15:30.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64353 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cone.cpp and 2 others): Break top/bottom sorting out into a function.
15:33.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64355 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_cone.cpp and 4 others): Starting setting up to 'fall back' to brep creation if we can't successfully handle a CSG representation. Doesn't generate completely correct results yet - getting flipped normals and multithreaded raytracing hangs with the nist4 example for some reason.
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18:29.14 ``Erik raytracing a black hole: http://rantonels.github.io/starless/
18:38.47 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64356 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Flip faces if the brep is a subtraction.
18:50.13 Stragus I have intuitive problems with these images
18:50.48 Stragus Looking directly at the event horizon, there will always be rays that have bent to appear at that point
18:51.10 Stragus So no point should be entirely black... unless I'm missing something very serious
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18:52.41 ``Erik is running on ~2hrs sleep and has a headache, is just passing the url along and trying not to think :)
18:52.49 Stragus Okay :)
18:53.08 ``Erik (also; setting up a windows machine for dev, so ... yeh...)
18:54.10 Stragus That is terrible, you have my deepest sympathy
18:54.20 Stragus Is the machine for you?
18:55.11 ``Erik it's an old clunker that I dual boot linux and windows on... I might be doing a windows project in the near future, so I wanted to make sure it was updated and functional before getting too involved on the project :/
18:56.28 Stragus I keep a laptop with Windows XP around to produce and test windows binaries, but I don't actually write any code on that machine
18:56.31 ``Erik 2.2ghz celeron, 2g ram, intel g41 video... it was a cheap machine years ago
18:58.12 ``Erik hm, windows has an "experience index" metric... it grades the hw on a scale of (wait for it) 1.0 to 7.9... mine is a 3.5
18:59.22 Stragus Half-way there! Good enough
18:59.46 Stragus What kind of Windows are you installing on that?
19:00.18 ``Erik heh, but it's out of 7.9... not 10, not even 8, 7.9! and the lowest is 1.0, not 0.0
19:00.53 ``Erik um, 7 home premium I think? vs10 express, netbeans, cygwin, eclipse, etc
19:01.17 Stragus That's a Microsoft scale, 7.9 based
19:01.32 ``Erik and piping the display through tightvnc
19:01.35 Stragus mingw64 is quite nice
19:02.01 Stragus True modern GCC on Windows, with the usual windows-only extras (resources, etc.)
19:02.13 ``Erik hm, might have to check it out some day
19:03.37 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64357 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition_sphere.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_shape_recognition.cpp): clear some debug printing
19:06.27 starseeker Stragus: any experience with the Windows clang port?
19:06.55 Stragus Never tried it, I'm not fond of clang
19:07.18 Stragus Had to mess with it when compiling on OSX... *sigh*
19:15.21 ``Erik clang is improving quite a bit lately *shrug*
19:17.11 Stragus I don't understand why Apple feels the need to throw all mainstream, quality FOSS software out
19:17.25 Stragus No gcc, no gdb, ar is broken, etc.
19:19.14 ``Erik ar is probably tricky due to apples 'fat binary' support...
19:19.59 ``Erik (and I'm not sure how much "quality" I'd attribute to gnu software... I've looked at too much source code ;) )
19:20.03 Stragus Also, basic stuff libssh are "deprecated". You use any function from libssh and it throws warnings/errors about these functions being deprecated
19:20.25 Stragus Sorry, I mean libssl
19:20.43 Stragus This is *the* libssl we are talking about, HTTPS and so on. What else are we supposed to use?
19:22.12 ``Erik there were some serious screw-ups in openssl recently (like remote root serious) that couldn't be fixed without a massive overhaul, iirc... there were a couple branch projects started, I think openssl is in the x11/xorg fork situation right now
19:22.40 ``Erik (and that was *the* x11r6 we were talking about back then... what else were we supposed to use?)
19:23.16 Stragus :) Okay good point, but don't deprecate functions when no alternative (yet) exists!
19:23.36 Stragus I even asked in #macdev and I was told I'm supposed to use some Apple-specific ObjC library
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19:24.47 ``Erik heh, of course :D with cocoa requirements, as well... who would dare port to linux, unix, windows, bsd, etc... just get a mac and be special and unique like all the other apple fanboys...
19:25.39 ``Erik plugs his phone back into his macbook to charge *cough*
19:25.40 Stragus I was supposed to replace libssl with an OSX-only ObjC library. Seriously, WTF.
19:37.16 ``Erik hah, a support library build just failed on windows because libssl32.dll can't be found, amusing coincidence :)
19:39.06 Stragus See! It's a conspiracy!
19:39.18 Stragus You now have to use the C# windows equivalent, no other option
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19:57.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64359 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Add some debugging - the top level tree build is inadequate for complex cases, need to rethink.
19:59.20 starseeker wishes they could get away from the mixed up openssl license...
20:02.14 Stragus Yes, there's something messed up about a core library that doesn't even try to maintain binary compatibility... and that is LGPL
20:03.17 starseeker not even sure it's LGPL
20:03.27 starseeker the OpenSSL license is... "special", IIRC
20:03.59 starseeker https://www.openssl.org/source/license.html
20:04.21 starseeker all those nice GPL incompatible advertising clauses...
20:04.59 ``Erik dual licensed with two differently modified bsd licenses, nice
20:05.48 Stragus Perhaps I'm mistaken. Can you bundle libssl into a binary of closed source software?
20:06.16 starseeker I belive so if you respect the advertising clauses of the licenses...
20:06.26 ``Erik yeah, it's bsd license at the core
20:06.32 starseeker GPL is where the problems lie
20:06.34 Stragus Ah, it's not so bad then
20:06.55 Stragus And LGPL since libraries without binary compatibility must be compiled in to avoid trouble
20:07.59 starseeker Freetype's non-GPL license (FTL) has similar issues, but they dual license GPL so that avoids most of the tight corners
20:08.19 starseeker ironically enough, LGPL is a bit of an uncomfortable fit with freetype...
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23:25.48 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 64362 brlcad/branches/brep-debug/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: encapsulate the logic from the curve-curve intersection routine for intersecting overlapping lines and use it in the curve-surface intersection routine as well

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