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01:22.45 Bennz How do submit your initialize proposal or early final proposal? Do you have to do it through the GSoC 2015 account?
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08:23.19 dracarys983 ``Erik, brlcad, starseeker, I am getting this error while building (Rev 64483) : http://pastebin.com/TSpVK6cN
08:27.17 dracarys983 We need to disable -Werror flag?
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11:14.19 piyush hi Everyone
11:14.29 piyush my name is piyush badkul and
11:14.55 piyush i am a newbie and i want to try my hand in gsoc and also want to contribute in brlcad
11:15.08 piyush pl guide me accordingly mentors
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11:16.47 piyush i am interested in some project of web Develoepment ,Geometry,and infrastructure
11:16.53 piyush pl reply ASAP
11:16.56 piyush thankyou
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13:59.28 lemur Hi, I'm looking at the Vector Drawings from NURBS project, and I've submited a proposal, but I am unsure of the direction I've taken. I'd really like to talk it over with someone just to see if there are flaws in my logic that I've missed
14:00.17 lemur it'd be much appreciated - message anytime, I'm avaliable more or less all day
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14:54.04 lemur Hm. Quick question, I've set out to take the edges that viewedge detects and then try and draw a control polygon and from that generate a spline curve, but without using NURBS. Is this a bad idea?
14:55.21 lemur Only the main reason I'm doing it is that the NURBS implementation doesn't seem far along enough, and to me at least it makes more sense to have vector image generation decoupled from NURBS if its not fully there yet.
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15:11.14 ``Erik lemur: I think viewedge does a lot of punting, I wouldn't trust it too far :/ last I heard, starseeker was the nurbs guy, might be worth talking to him?
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15:21.07 brlcad starseeker: haha, ready to do it again? http://bazel.io ... totally kidding
15:21.40 brlcad dracarys983: can't reach pastebin.com atm, another paste site?
15:21.58 brlcad lemur: why are you unsure?
15:23.36 brlcad lemur: using gridded sampling and fitting a spline curve isn't bad, it'll just take a *really* fine grid (like a 10000x10000 render), definitely not interactive at least unless you did dynamic sampling to only sample extra on/near edges
15:24.11 brlcad nurbs ray tracing is fully there for solid models as far as we know
15:47.12 lemur ok, well I guess if nurbs works, I have some rewriting to do :P
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16:20.35 dracarys983 brlcad, Here : http://tny.cz/455a7496
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16:28.30 brlcad dracarys983: thx
16:29.08 brlcad lemur: the fundamental problem you should address is how to obtain a contour of a nurbs surface
16:29.38 brlcad lemur: you can certainly propose a sampled approach -- that is a perfectly valid first step
16:30.12 brlcad lemur: but it may actually be easier to do surface projection (I don't know)
16:30.34 brlcad dracarys983: soare you saying you don't know how to fix that error?
16:31.26 brlcad dracarys983: you could certainly turn off strict, but that's a really trivial warning that you should know how to address in less than a minute if you read it :)
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16:33.02 dracarys983 brlcad, Yeah I just noticed the error but did not really try to fix it. I just thought about turning off strict
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16:38.25 brlcad dracarys983: you should always read the error, otherwise you will not improve as a developer
16:38.32 brlcad no matter whose code it is
16:39.09 brlcad most of the time, build errors are utterly trivial (especially when you build strict like we do)
16:39.21 dracarys983 brlcad, Yeah, sorry.
16:39.24 brlcad you'll eventually see the common patterns
16:39.51 brlcad avoids making mountains out of mole hills ;)
16:40.19 dracarys983 Okay, I'll be careful now. :)
16:41.02 dracarys983 brlcad, I fixed it :)
16:41.53 piyush hi everyone
16:42.29 piyush myself Piyush badkul and i am newbie and i want ot contribute to brl-cad and want to try my hand in gsox
16:42.31 piyush gsoc
16:42.41 piyush pl guide me accordingly
16:42.54 piyush and tell me where to start off
16:44.40 teepee-- piyush: did you read the gsoc page in the brl-cad wiki?
16:47.45 brlcad piyush: we talk openly, no need to PM
16:48.48 dracarys983 brlcad, I'm really sorry. I was so worried about GSoC that I didn't pay attention to the error and didn't fix it.
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16:53.42 brlcad dracarys983: you don't need dwell on it or be sorry, we're all learning
16:55.58 dracarys983 hm okay :)
16:57.54 brlcad huh, RenderMan is finally free (for non-commercial)
16:59.07 teepee-- is it still much ahead of other (especially open source) stuff?
16:59.15 lemur brlcad, when it comes to the proposal
16:59.30 lemur are we wanting to give the high level overview of how we are going to do this
16:59.34 teepee-- the progress on the cycles render engine in blender seems impressive
16:59.45 lemur this being whatever we are setting out to do
17:00.13 lemur I'm a bit torn between the two directions hah
17:01.12 brlcad teepee--: yeah ...
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17:01.49 albertcoder Hi brlcad I read your mail regarding previous year's GSoC students, I have been hesitant to ask but I want to know can previous year's students apply this year? Even if it is a NO I would be happy to work along / contribute / guide. :)
17:01.51 brlcad cycles is good (really that's all OSL from SonyImageworks)
17:02.31 brlcad basically pixar vs sony rendering infrastructure ... somewhat different feature sets and target audiences
17:03.08 brlcad both top notch, but both doing things the other can't touch (as efficiently)
17:03.41 teepee-- ahh, I do like that nodes editor very much
17:04.12 brlcad albertcoder: I don't understand -- the e-mail talks about that, and I believe directly answers your question
17:06.45 albertcoder brlcad: Yeah I understand our priority is less but I wanted to ask how should I be contributing via patch or pushing directly into brlcad github?
17:08.59 brlcad albertcoder: depends what you modify, but if you have push access that would make the most sense
17:10.00 brlcad really the emphasis first is on what you'd propose doing this summer, since you've predominantly demonstrated your coding ability level already
17:10.23 brlcad and if you can tie to to one of the four associate orgs, even better -- maybe two proposals if you're really serious
17:10.34 brlcad one for brl-cad one for associate org
17:13.00 brlcad the point is to expand and encourage collaboration and get things into production use, which predominantly didn't happen after last summer
17:13.25 brlcad ogv, materialsdb, and benchmark are still offline, which is unfortunate and was a factor
17:13.26 albertcoder Yeah I am thinking of applying in STEPcode too (but not having any prior experience with it is discouraging me do so) since it has some good association with BRL-CAD too.
17:13.54 albertcoder Right! That shouldn't have happened.
17:13.57 brlcad offline == not ready for users
17:15.18 brlcad my fault for not pressing production use more, or being more encouraging about just how important those efforts are
17:16.26 albertcoder I am very much aware of that, that is why I chose to take this project as my major project. I am determined to make it production ready with / without GSoC.
17:16.27 brlcad albertcoder: yeah, STEPcode can be tricky because it's a lot of complex code -- might I suggest talking with LinuxCNC? they haven't gotten a whole lot of interest yet
17:17.41 albertcoder umm Yeah that's cool too.
17:17.58 brlcad if you have time, propose both and we'll see how things shake out
17:18.18 brlcad it's hard to say as it will HEAVILY depend on what mentors are available
17:18.28 albertcoder alright, I will.
17:18.39 albertcoder Yeah that's an issue too.
17:21.04 albertcoder Okay I will be glad to help out the new materialsdb aspirants too but I too wanted to ask what further is expected from that project? I have been working improving export / import (need some discussion on this), dynamic table creation etc.
17:22.08 albertcoder I have some minor enhancements in mind but what in the end is expected from it right now?
17:23.27 albertcoder I heard from you once that applying the properties to the models has been worked upon by minhaecsu.
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17:24.09 brlcad yeah, tying those two together, making it production viable, get tools talking to it with clean / transparent usability
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17:27.10 brlcad I don't know that it even needs to do much more than it does -- the site needs to get set up proper, themed, needs to be integrated with tools, etc.. finish it
17:29.51 albertcoder Alright, tools like? Are you talking about gqa, rtcheck or something else?
17:31.43 albertcoder I mean are you saying to work on feeding the properties to these tools?
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17:34.19 albertcoder I would like to listen a few words regarding the import feature too. I mean till now I have been able to import the properties from a JSON file. Where are we preparing to import the properties from?
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17:37.17 dracarys983 ``Erik, Did you see my proposal then? :P
17:37.59 sofat brlcad, I am comfortable with both(mediawiki and wordpress) I have made plugins and extensions so are you going with mediawiki or wordpress ?
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20:02.34 ries brlcad: On Google Melange do I re-create a profile?
20:02.53 ries I think I am 'gone' and I did sign up for 2015
20:02.56 ries os confused
20:03.33 andrei_ ries: if you log in with the same e-mail you did previously I believe it should be the same
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20:04.05 teepee ries: yes, it's a new profile
20:04.17 teepee even with the same email
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20:07.52 ries teepee: ok, le tme sign up once more then :)
20:10.36 andrei_ ries: how's gsoc going on at LibreCAD ?
20:11.08 ries andrei_: we are getting a bit of attention... our previous student and two possible two new students
20:11.36 andrei_ awesome
20:12.05 andrei_ in the timeline, from the moment applications close to the date results are published
20:12.13 andrei_ there s a period label " orgs might request additional details"
20:12.22 andrei_ do you know if students' can edit their proposals in this period?
20:12.51 ries andrei_: yes they can, what we do is that they only modify it when asked
20:13.16 andrei_ ah, so you need some sort of "permission" ?
20:15.49 ries I think they can just edit it
20:15.58 ries but we ask them not to edit it after submissions
20:16.05 ries else you run into the issue that you read it..
20:16.13 ries then you judge it.. and they change it later on
20:16.30 ries If we see potential but there is still somethingg off, we ask them to edit/re-evaluate
20:16.55 andrei_ makes sense
20:19.38 teepee andrei_: there's a switch on the proposal where the mentor can make it editable again
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