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| 17:34.36 | brlcad | gaganjyot: what time is it for you? |
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| 17:40.58 | gaganjyot | brlcad, its 11:10 PM |
| 17:41.07 | gaganjyot | :) |
| 17:41.23 | brlcad | okay, that's what I figured ... and what day? :) |
| 17:41.42 | gaganjyot | its saturday at the moment |
| 17:41.49 | gaganjyot | in 1 hour it will be sunday :) |
| 17:42.09 | brlcad | okay, so I was right and they're just not here |
| 17:42.14 | brlcad | gracias |
| 17:42.14 | gaganjyot | who? |
| 17:42.19 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Hi! |
| 17:42.32 | gaganjyot | you meant deepak |
| 17:42.34 | gaganjyot | and other one? |
| 17:42.37 | gaganjyot | for the oGV? |
| 17:42.38 | brlcad | looking to talk to our OGV students about disambiguating their projects |
| 17:42.46 | brlcad | deepak and shubham |
| 17:42.52 | gaganjyot | as I guessed :) |
| 17:42.55 | ih8sum3r | Deepak is present SIr :D |
| 17:43.05 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: ah, excellent! |
| 17:43.19 | brlcad | ~seen deepak |
| 17:43.24 | infobot | deepak <~chatzilla@117.199.104.249> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 140d 21h 54m 43s ago, saying: 'Seems interesting. I want to explore it more and more. Can you just tell me where to start so that the concept get exactly clear for me. '. |
| 17:43.54 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: so did you see my e-mail? |
| 17:44.06 | brlcad | and why do you d8 sum3r? :) |
| 17:44.13 | brlcad | s/d8/h8/ |
| 17:45.02 | ih8sum3r | Yes! I have checked that email, reading that only and was going to reply. |
| 17:46.36 | brlcad | welcome to reply, but that was just meant to help frame the discussion here |
| 17:46.42 | brlcad | thoughts? |
| 17:46.45 | ih8sum3r | Because I literally hate summers. And I found it interesting writing like this :) |
| 17:47.37 | brlcad | you hate summers because you hate summers? my question was why, not about how you wrote it :) |
| 17:47.57 | brlcad | summer certainly means different things to different people I suppose |
| 17:51.13 | ih8sum3r | Sun is over the head all the time, temperature nearly about 45-50 degree Celsius and I can't go out for fun. I hate sweat. I get skin burns in summers, I roasted like a toast. |
| 17:51.25 | brlcad | ~convert 50 C to F |
| 17:51.39 | brlcad | nice, hot |
| 17:52.05 | brlcad | fair enough |
| 17:52.54 | brlcad | so, thoughts on working front-end usability vs back-end functionality? |
| 17:56.48 | Stragus | 50C? Are you located in the Sahara desert? |
| 17:57.11 | brlcad | wonders if ih8sum3r is splitting his time elsewhere? I have limited amount of time to discuss this particular matter, which was the point of scheduling a meeting time. |
| 17:57.17 | Stragus | brlcad, 122 Farenheit |
| 17:57.23 | brlcad | Stragus: yep, got that |
| 17:57.36 | brlcad | gogle ftw |
| 17:57.47 | ih8sum3r | I want to work on front-end functionality. |
| 17:58.08 | ih8sum3r | Plus documentation work. |
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| 17:58.52 | Stragus | still really wonders where ih8sum3r is located |
| 17:59.23 | Stragus | IP says Delhi, India |
| 18:00.48 | ih8sum3r | Temperature not exactly 50 but it remains between 45 to 50 :D |
| 18:01.37 | brlcad | Stragus: maybe types very slowly, is not only focused on the discussion here, or is feeding everything through translate ... but you have the rough location right :) |
| 18:02.44 | brlcad | does seem a bit hot for the location, but wikipedia confirms that extent is common enough |
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| 18:03.37 | brlcad | there he is |
| 18:03.39 | brlcad | hi Shubham |
| 18:03.46 | Shubham | Hey |
| 18:04.05 | Shubham | Sorry to be a bit late |
| 18:04.16 | brlcad | better late than not, was going to decide for you ;)( |
| 18:05.18 | brlcad | Shubham: do you have any thoughts on what I wrote? usability vs infrastrucutre, front vs back? |
| 18:05.20 | Shubham | Anything to summarize about things you have decided or come up with |
| 18:05.29 | brlcad | nothing yet decided |
| 18:05.45 | Shubham | I would prefer working on backend |
| 18:06.00 | brlcad | just getting started with the discussion, but ih8sum3r seems to be very slow and intermittent in responding |
| 18:06.24 | Shubham | Just because I can learn more in back-end |
| 18:06.41 | ih8sum3r | One of the drawback that I found using it error messages are not displayed in may of the scenarios. I think absences of these messages may hinder the usability. Secondly when something is uploaded no notification is shown regarding the time or anything else where success or failure. |
| 18:06.52 | brlcad | that's a good fit then because he'd indicated he wanted to work more on front-end |
| 18:06.54 | Shubham | I can contribute in front-end whatsoever |
| 18:07.32 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: good observations on some of the usability issues |
| 18:07.38 | brlcad | i've encountered many of those myself in testing |
| 18:08.01 | ih8sum3r | Even I can contribute in back end also :) I would be better if we divide a task front-end as well as back-end |
| 18:08.20 | brlcad | so then lets call that decided: Shubham can work back-end / infrastructure and ih8sum3r can work on front-end / usability |
| 18:08.27 | brlcad | i know you can both do both :) |
| 18:08.37 | brlcad | you both proposed aspects of front-end and back-end work |
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| 18:08.58 | brlcad | that's why I figured it wouldn't be hard to split the work and get you both working productively and independently |
| 18:09.21 | brlcad | that said, it will be great if you guys work together to test each other's work |
| 18:09.42 | Shubham | Exactly |
| 18:09.42 | brlcad | maybe even do pair testing, where you work on a feature and send the other a pull request, and repeat |
| 18:10.35 | ih8sum3r | Yes! if we work like this we can even enhance our knowledge and would be a great fun and learning doing both of the things. |
| 18:10.52 | Shubham | Here's what I think: |
| 18:10.58 | brlcad | yep, and you can give each other feedback |
| 18:11.16 | brlcad | there is *always* room for improvement, so the reviews should focus on the limited intent / scope of each change |
| 18:11.35 | brlcad | but it can also be a great way to get OGV reay for production use |
| 18:11.36 | Shubham | Brlcaf;provide us with some points for a single proposal. Combine both our submitted proposals. |
| 18:11.47 | brlcad | hm? |
| 18:11.51 | brlcad | some points? |
| 18:12.10 | brlcad | we're past the proposal phase, we're working on project plans :) |
| 18:12.11 | Shubham | And then we can work on things together |
| 18:12.17 | Shubham | Me and deepak |
| 18:12.26 | brlcad | ah, so that is not strictly possible |
| 18:12.40 | brlcad | the projects must be separate, not one project |
| 18:13.05 | brlcad | if one of you gets lazy or hit by a bus or goes on vacation, it cannot affect the other |
| 18:13.08 | Shubham | Hmm. I get that. |
| 18:13.25 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Yah! production ready was also not done last time so was thinking to implement that too. |
| 18:13.26 | brlcad | that's why it's good to have separate goals for front and back |
| 18:14.01 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: it's currently ill-defined what production-ready actually means, especially as features keep getting added and improved |
| 18:14.17 | brlcad | so you/we will have to define what exactly that menas |
| 18:14.25 | brlcad | s/menas/means/ |
| 18:14.47 | brlcad | so... |
| 18:16.16 | brlcad | what I think is needed next is a set of objectivs for the front-end and the back-end from both of you, scoped accordingly so that you're done adding anything new by midterm and after midterm focuses on polish/improvements |
| 18:16.52 | sofat | starseeker, brlcad hello |
| 18:17.11 | brlcad | maybe look over each other's proposals and figure that out over today, tomorrow, and we can see what goals you arrive at (unless you already know now, we can discuss) |
| 18:17.12 | ih8sum3r | AFAIK production ready means to make it implemented on BRL-CAD server so that anyone can use it. In short it means to deploy it on the server. Am I right? |
| 18:17.16 | brlcad | maybe by Monday? |
| 18:18.08 | Shubham | Ok |
| 18:18.12 | sofat | I am working on altassian confunce i am try to import the docbook in this but plugin gave me the error "page not found" |
| 18:18.15 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: the current code could be deployed onto the server today, but I would argue that is not sufficient to be production ready |
| 18:18.34 | Shubham | Yeah |
| 18:18.39 | Shubham | The login itself |
| 18:18.45 | Shubham | Is too buggy |
| 18:18.50 | brlcad | exactly |
| 18:19.04 | brlcad | so we need a list of what exactly is needed to be considered production ready |
| 18:19.20 | ih8sum3r | Yah! when we upload .g files some of them work some do not. |
| 18:20.07 | brlcad | can one of you update http://brlcad.org/wiki/OGV with a list of what tasks you think are needed to be production ready? |
| 18:20.24 | Shubham | Making it "production ready" will be our priority till mid term eval |
| 18:20.35 | ih8sum3r | Agree! |
| 18:20.54 | brlcad | emphasis on tasks that are measurable (e.g., unmeasureable: make logins robust ; measurable: make oauth logins work every time) |
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| 18:21.37 | brlcad | there's a TODO at the end of http://brlcad.org/wiki/OGV that has some ideas for front/back end work that might be of use |
| 18:23.04 | brlcad | volunteer to update the wiki with a section for required/desired production-ready tasks? |
| 18:23.08 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Is there any plan to make it mobile first site? |
| 18:24.31 | ih8sum3r | I want to contribute but my exams are going on so can I get a bit of time to update it? |
| 18:24.32 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: that'd be a good question to decide amongst ourselves, but to me having it work on mobile is "nice to have but not strictly necessary" |
| 18:25.29 | Shubham | @ih8sum3r: Share your proposal with me, please. mail me or something. I'll share mine with you. Let's get this done by Tuesday MAX. I'll take care of updating the wiki. |
| 18:26.14 | ih8sum3r | So if this is the case we can make it fully responsive so as not to work separately for mobile first site. |
| 18:26.15 | brlcad | Shubham: ah that reminds me |
| 18:26.28 | brlcad | you both haven't added your details to http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2015 yet |
| 18:26.38 | brlcad | if you do that, you'll be able to get to each other's proposal |
| 18:26.59 | brlcad | sofat: sorry, not trying to ignore you -- this was just a scheduled meeting |
| 18:27.20 | Shubham | yes, because I guess we had to update our proposals right. make them independent of each other |
| 18:27.31 | brlcad | sofat: cool that you're trying confluence, maybe you can try a simple docbook test file first |
| 18:27.41 | brlcad | sofat: and you have two incomplete entires at http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2015 |
| 18:28.09 | brlcad | Shubham: you can upload your proposal and have a separate link for your project plan |
| 18:28.39 | brlcad | e.g., "Project Plan (Original Proposal)" |
| 18:28.46 | brlcad | each being a different link |
| 18:29.00 | brlcad | make sense? |
| 18:29.13 | ih8sum3r | I know that we have to upload our proposal but I was getting some problem during the creation of an account ( something captcha problem) but now it is done and most probably my tomorrow or day ofter tomorrow I'll upload it. |
| 18:29.15 | Shubham | sure |
| 18:29.22 | brlcad | of have one link and update it from there -- the original proposal will still be in the wiki hisotry |
| 18:29.43 | ih8sum3r | s / often / after |
| 18:29.52 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: great |
| 18:31.49 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: I would like to apologizes first as I would be little inactive till 16 of May due to my exams but after that I'll be available here only. |
| 18:32.48 | Shubham | Any final comments then? :) |
| 18:33.10 | ih8sum3r | shubham: If you want to discuss something or anything else please leave a message. |
| 18:33.52 | Shubham | when do we talk next? what do we do before our next meeting? |
| 18:37.14 | sofat | brlcad, sorry I will check |
| 18:39.35 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: how much time do you have? doing the wiki edit and updating you plan probably won't take more than an hour |
| 18:40.40 | brlcad | *shouldn't that is |
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| 18:42.05 | ih8sum3r | Okay so I need to look up. Can I do it on Monday please? As I have exam on monday and there are lot many things yet to be done :D |
| 18:45.03 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: yes, thats fine |
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| 18:45.23 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Hitesh sofat * 8197 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2015: |
| 18:45.33 | brlcad | I'm more concerned that your impression was to delay this two entire weeks |
| 18:47.10 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: Shubham: can you both at least add your existing details to the http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2015 page today .. it takes all of 5 minutes |
| 18:47.40 | brlcad | then the project plan edits can be later, maybe by next weekend? |
| 18:48.09 | brlcad | Shubham: were you willing to add the production-ready section? |
| 18:48.34 | Shubham | I'll work on that, yes |
| 18:49.27 | Shubham | ih8sum3r: you can give me your inputs as well, that way it'll be easier |
| 18:49.37 | ih8sum3r | Okay on it. I'll do it by today. |
| 18:49.39 | Shubham | open to any suggestions |
| 18:50.40 | ih8sum3r | Sure shubham i'll |
| 18:51.58 | brlcad | if you need help figuring out exactly what you need to do to edit the wiki, I can walk you through it |
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| 18:54.06 | brlcad | basically log in, hit edit button, copy-paste a copy of the openscad block, edit the links to yours and save the page; then edit each of the red links, pasting your info for the proposal and a stub for your logs |
| 18:56.26 | brlcad | so, both will have wiki edited today with existing data, Shubham will update http://brlcad.org/wiki/OGV with a section for production-ready status, and then both will have an updated proposal/plan for back/front-end work by next Sunday? agreeable? |
| 18:57.03 | ih8sum3r | Yes agree. |
| 18:57.23 | sofat | brlcad, when you free please ping me |
| 18:58.34 | Shubham | sure |
| 19:00.28 | brlcad | okay, excellent, then meeting adjourned .. thank you both for your efforts! |
| 19:01.54 | brlcad | would one of you write a quick summary e-mail to the mailing list (to Inderpreet), just to say that one will be working front/usability and the other back/infrastructure, regarding who is working each, and that details of the objectives will be sorted out this week? |
| 19:02.01 | brlcad | brlcad-devel |
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| 19:07.06 | sofat | starseeker, you know about this plugin ? "docbbook importer atlassian conflunce". |
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| 19:23.01 | brlcad | sofat: you can try to ask a question on the atlassian site |
| 19:23.08 | brlcad | https://answers.atlassian.com/questions/topics/758435/addon-org.jboss.labs.confluence.plugin.docbook |
| 19:23.18 | sofat | ok thanks |
| 19:23.38 | brlcad | sofat: did you try a simple docbook file? |
| 19:23.44 | sofat | yes |
| 19:23.47 | brlcad | didn't work? |
| 19:24.18 | sofat | yes plugin not import the docbook file the gave me the error "page not found" after submission |
| 19:24.34 | brlcad | sofat: are you trying this on our server or somewhere else? |
| 19:24.53 | sofat | my local machine |
| 19:24.55 | brlcad | okay |
| 19:25.41 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Deekaysharma * 8199 /wiki/User:Deepak: Created page with "=Online Geometry Viewer Proposal= '''Name:''' Deepak Kumar Sharma '''Email Address:''' deeky.sharma@gmail.com '''IRC Username:''' ih8sum3r ===Background Information=== Fin..." |
| 19:26.07 | brlcad | sofat: it looks like it's also open source (the importer) ... |
| 19:26.21 | brlcad | could try the sources here: https://github.com/jbossorg/docbook-import-for-confluence |
| 19:26.25 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.43 | sofat | ok |
| 19:26.54 | brlcad | if anything, you can make sure you followed the instructions there and can contact the author there |
| 19:27.02 | sofat | i will check this |
| 19:27.28 | brlcad | wouldn't be unreasonable to fork his code and make it work if changes are needed |
| 19:27.38 | brlcad | or if you can make it better |
| 19:28.04 | brlcad | that could be hugely beneficial |
| 19:30.01 | sofat | i think code written in java so i am not more comfortable with java |
| 19:30.20 | sofat | I have knowledge about php |
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| 19:42.33 | brlcad | hm, getting a lot of -Wdocumentation errors with gcv.cpp and the optionparser.h header |
| 19:44.05 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: I have uploaded my proposal. Please check http://brlcad.org/w/index.php?title=User:Deepak&oldid=8199| |
| 19:53.02 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: usually suggest uploading it to a URL separate from your Username: link |
| 19:53.38 | brlcad | example: http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Andrei.ilinca24/Proposal |
| 19:53.47 | brlcad | and http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Vasco.costa/GSoC15/proposal |
| 19:55.11 | ih8sum3r | okay I'll do it like that. |
| 19:55.14 | brlcad | basically, just go to http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Deekaysharma/GSoC2015/Proposal and add it there |
| 19:55.27 | brlcad | User:Deepak is not technically valid since that's not what you named your account |
| 19:56.16 | ih8sum3r | Okay I'll correct it. |
| 19:57.07 | brlcad | if you'd like that username, you should be able to register it .. doesn't look like Deepak is taken |
| 19:57.32 | brlcad | but that means logging out, and registering the new name |
| 19:58.18 | ih8sum3r | No worries DeeKay Sharma will be fine. As I reflects my full name :). |
| 19:58.50 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:MeShubham99 * 8201 /wiki/User:MeShubham99: Created page with "Hey, I am Shubham Chauhan, and I'll be working one the Online Geometry Viewer: Backend Project, which is an online web app, where users can upload, view and share 3D CAD mode..." |
| 20:03.02 | brlcad | :) |
| 20:22.18 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:MeShubham99 * 8202 /wiki/User:MeShubham99/GSoc15/proposal: Created page with "=Personal Information= Name: Shubham Chauhan Email Address: Shubham13099@iiitd.ac.in, shubham.chauhan1@gmail.com IRC Username: Shubham, Shubham_ =Background Information..." |
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