IRC log for #brlcad on 20160310

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00:31.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67282 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Go with fewer DocBook build targets.
00:40.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67283 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/opt.c: initialize
00:47.00 brlcad starseeker: you do realize in r67283 that you only initialized v3?
00:48.04 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67284 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/opt.c: whoops
01:04.52 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67285 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/docbook.cmake.in: fix header
01:12.11 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67286 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Tweak install logic
01:14.48 starseeker brlcad: I didn't, but the compiler did
01:15.01 starseeker brlcad: is there a shorthand syntax for that situation?
01:17.35 brlcad int a = 3, b = 2, c = 1;
01:17.41 brlcad (i.e., no)
01:17.52 starseeker humph
01:17.58 brlcad unless you separate declaration from init
01:18.01 brlcad int a, b, c;
01:18.06 brlcad a = b = c = 0;
01:18.09 starseeker ah
01:18.36 brlcad what you did is generally best practice
01:18.43 brlcad one per line, init on declaration
01:19.00 starseeker nods - just feels clunky/verbose, but it is what it is
01:19.25 starseeker closing in - down to less than 900 build targets on Windows now
01:19.28 brlcad unambiguous, explicit
01:19.37 brlcad cool, feel any faster?
01:19.41 starseeker yes
01:19.49 starseeker especially when re-running configure
01:19.55 brlcad I'll have to time my load times and build carefully before I svn up my windows image
01:20.26 starseeker still hammering out nit-noid stuff - I'd forgotten how many moving parts all of this stuff has
01:21.23 starseeker oddly, getting a pretty decent configure speed up on Linux - probably 'cause we were generating both HTML and MAN outputs there (Windows is generally HTML only)
01:21.46 brlcad looks like 67279 (DocBook.cmake) is not quoted paths
01:23.46 starseeker nods - not sure if it'll matter in that case, but won't hurt
01:24.11 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67287 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Quote paths (Sean)
01:24.30 starseeker will fire a distcheck-full once the regular distcheck behaves
01:26.28 starseeker *really* needs to send CMake a patch that prints out configure and generation times as part of the standard CMake output... it wouldn't even be that hard...
01:32.27 starseeker OK, regular distcheck passed
01:32.37 starseeker crosses fingers
01:37.54 brlcad finalized terms with a new hosting provider, we're good to move
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02:00.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67288 (brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/docbook.cmake.in): Looks like we might need the CMAKE_CFG_INTDIR var... getting directory generated in Windows build directory, and it doesn't appear to be coming from the cmake -P script execution.
02:09.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67289 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: quote
02:09.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67290 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: remove debug message
02:40.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67291 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Need the extras list when odd pathnames and xsltproc don't get along
02:56.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67292 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Only mess with CMAKE_CFG_INTDIR if we're doing multiconfig - in non-multiconfig it breaks in-src-dir.
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03:41.16 maths22 brlcad: Finally looked at IRC
03:41.23 maths22 I like the new landing page
03:41.26 maths22 It's pretty
03:42.46 brlcad very much a work in progress, and I've not had time to do the next steps in over a week now
03:43.38 brlcad need to fix up the highlights, get mailing list subscription working, fix the main menu, apply the theme to the WP install, make sure it's in sync with drupal (should be), apply theme to mediawiki...
03:43.50 brlcad and then get docs integrated/published
03:51.19 andromeda-galaxy brlcad, maths22: indeed. The front page markup has been much improved (thanks Guaravjeetsingh!), which should help a bit.
03:51.35 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: did we figure out how we want to distribute the work of categorizing the gci tasks?
03:56.09 brlcad not yet
03:56.13 brlcad been working on getting a provider selected, agreement in place, our server moved
03:56.36 brlcad kind of an emergency given the recent reboots ... quite possibly failing hardware
03:58.06 brlcad anyone experienced with dynamic css transitions?
03:58.26 brlcad want to go from the menu we see on brlcad.org to the menu we see at beta.brlcad.org when someone scrolls down
04:01.06 brlcad even more awesome would be if the logo "walked" over the corner with the grey link pulling the red
04:05.53 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: ah okay, that makes sense. I missed the reboots somehow, I hope everything works out! I've got some experience with css transitions, I might be able to take a look a little bit later this week...
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04:10.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67293 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: need to set these regardless
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10:27.54 boj brlcad thanks :), I think I have got the main idea of plate mode, now I am working on the code and trying to write a demo...
10:29.30 boj BTW, I am a little bit confused about implementation of NURB in brep.cpp/brep.c and nurb_*.c, they are the same or the latter one is assistant functions for the former one?
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11:23.29 starseeker boj: the latter is an old implementation, on its way out
11:23.56 starseeker we need to scan that code to see if there's anything we want to migrate first (i.e. something not already available in openNURBS/libbrep)
11:24.30 starseeker brep.c/brep.cpp, src/libbrep, and src/other/openNURBS are the key to the new implementation
11:24.39 starseeker (i.e. where you'll want to focus)
11:26.05 boj OK, I got it, thanks for your reminding.
11:28.06 Gabriel_ Hi, could anyone please clarify me some things about the search command, please?
11:28.50 Gabriel_ I've seen in the source code that there is a function which gets a database full path
11:29.21 Gabriel_ can search produce results that are not necessarily stored in the currently opened database?
11:30.14 Gabriel_ I mean can the user input a specific database right inside search, without opening it before?
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12:41.40 sniok So I put some thoughts that I came up with about web site improving. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QvNBcdj8aLhiYE8qAxuzAgqSeJTinQCab9jv9LCYTyE/edit?usp=sharing
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15:56.48 kvps1 anybody there
15:59.14 andromeda-galaxy kvps1: probably...
16:02.41 kvps1 good
16:03.23 kvps1 so can you tell me something about the code for Geometry Conversion Library
16:04.31 andromeda-galaxy kvps1: maybe, I'm not sure, that's not a project that I've been really involved in. If you ask here and stay on IRC, someone better qualified will probably respond at some poinit
16:09.04 kvps1 ok
16:09.18 kvps1 so on which project are you working
16:10.25 kvps1 i am new in this , so it will be good if you share some code with me, regarding brl cad
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16:22.42 *** topic/#brlcad is Welcome to BRL-CAD! || Don't ask if someone is here, ask a better question. || We're participating in GSoC 2016! Patches required. || Major release 7.26 coming any day now... :P || New website deployed, feedback welcome! || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/
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17:35.33 anirudh96 hey
17:36.53 anirudh96 i am interested in taking up benchmark performance database in gsoc can anyone help me in getting started
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18:43.56 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 67294 brlcad/branches/brep-debug/doc/docbook/system/implementation/en/bool_eval_development.xml: add notes on keeping track of 2D vs 3D operations
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19:48.42 starseeker and distcheck-full passes again.
19:48.45 starseeker phew
19:49.01 starseeker proceeds to the next thing on his "stuff to break" list...
19:51.33 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:VictorfyymktdmitCharleton * 0 /wiki/User:VictorfyymktdmitCharleton:
19:51.51 starseeker brlcad: looks like debian is storing non-english man pages in /usr/share/man/<lang>/man# directories
19:52.54 starseeker brlcad: should we store the html and man versions of the man pages in the same hierarchy? Really they're doing the exact same job, with the HTML version being used when the man version isn't what the client program wants/supports...
20:23.05 tandoorichick i would like to know how data is stored in a .g file (i understand it's not as simple text- like how we store vertices, edges and faces for a single object in an OFF file or with different fileds in VRML, etc.).
20:26.15 tandoorichick fields*
20:27.04 starseeker tandoorichick: best place to start is probably here: http://ftp.arl.mil/mike/papers/brlcad5.0/newdb.html
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20:29.51 tandoorichick starseeker: thanks but i'm not able to access it (some ports might be blocked by my ISP). is there another location where the same content is present?
20:30.26 starseeker http://brlcad.org/wiki/File:BRL_CAD_g_format_V5.pdf might work...
20:30.55 tandoorichick thanks a lot. :)
20:31.20 starseeker np
20:39.45 tandoorichick starseeker: are ARS, ARB8, ARBN and BoT are the only the polygonal/polyhedral primitives?
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21:16.22 starseeker tandoorichick: there's also NMG
21:16.48 starseeker DSP can be polygonal with certain settings
21:16.58 starseeker ask can extruded sketches
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21:17.06 starseeker s/ask can/as can
21:17.40 starseeker in principle you can also have a NURB composed completely of linear/planar elements
21:22.39 starseeker suspects he broke Notify again...
21:25.43 tandoorichick starseeker: for mesh healing i would have to be concerned with which all of them?
21:25.50 tandoorichick bot would be one
21:26.20 tandoorichick the arbs and ars wont have to be checked i guess
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21:47.57 starseeker nods - focus on bot
21:48.04 starseeker that'll be plenty by itself
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21:51.45 tandoorichick ok got it. thanks.
21:54.31 tandoorichick one more question. i would have a mesh healing library from scratch is it?
21:55.21 tandoorichick have to write*
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22:39.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 67295 brlcad/branches/brep-debug/doc/docbook/system/implementation/en/bool_eval_development.xml: add comments on curve traversal directions
22:39.11 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67296 brlcad/trunk/src/brlman/brlman.tcl.in: Update vim type mode - combined with the tcl.vim file from http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1717, finally getting reasonable indenting behavior. Update indenting.
22:39.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67297 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/DocBook.cmake: Add individual targets to ALL, so we can cd into a subdirectory and build with make
22:39.16 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67298 brlcad/trunk/src/brlman/brlman.tcl.in: Simplify, have the script look first for lang, then en, then in the toplevel before failing to return a man page.
22:39.19 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67299 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt and 3 others): Tweak all things man page so we're (in principle) ready for multiple man pages in different languages. Go with the Debian setup, which puts the en man pages in the toplevel and makes <lang>/man# subdirectories for other languages. Since we don't have any
22:39.21 Notify non-english man pages as yet this is is hypothetical, but it should set the stage.
22:39.23 Notify ...
22:39.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67300 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/README brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/CMakeLists.txt and 3 others): Collapse the en hierarchy, since those man pages will install that way as defaults in the install.
22:39.36 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 67301 brlcad/branches/brep-debug/doc/docbook/system/implementation/en/bool_eval_development.xml: notes on avoiding accumulated error; spelling
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