IRC log for #brlcad on 20160411

00:16.16 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67601 brlcad/trunk/regress/rtwizard/CMakeLists.txt: typo
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00:59.51 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67602 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/opt.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/opt.c brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c): Add a mechanism to filter out options in help printing - this allows us to specify both dev/programming opts and user opts in a single bu_opt. Also opens up possibilities for 'multi-section' help printing.
01:16.40 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67603 brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c: Separate rtwizard option help printout into groups.
01:43.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67604 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/opt.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/opt.c brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c): Support both reject and accept option filtering. Generally reject will be preferable since it will require no modification to add new opts to help outputs, but in cases like rtwizard where we're doing relatively elaborate processing accept is less verbose and less error prone.
01:56.04 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67605 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/rtwizard.xml: Update rtwizard man page - don't document low level options as they're not really intended for interactive use by humans, switch from space to comma separated object lists.
01:57.26 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67606 brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c: typo
02:12.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67607 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/opt.h brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c): Add a default struct init define for bu_opt_desc_opts
02:16.28 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67608 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/opt.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/opt.c): Put the default offset and column settings in the struct init - don't need the separate defines.
02:18.13 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67609 brlcad/trunk/TODO: moot with rtwizard rework.
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03:29.13 zaverichintan Any updates for new server setup?
03:33.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67610 brlcad/trunk/include/bu/opt.h: need to document these new magic numbers. looking at the struct, the fields are similarly undocumented (and their purpose rather non-obvious to me).
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04:01.07 zaverichintan Shubham can you give some advice for deployment of OGV?
04:01.52 shubham have you set up a freebsd VM?
04:02.17 shubham if not, you can do that as a first step
04:02.31 shubham we'll deploy meteor on a freebsd server
04:05.12 zaverichintan Okay, I will set up VM for freebsd and deploy meteor on local.
06:23.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67611 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/RaytraceWizard.tcl: repeating the value doesn't document the value; say what, why, and units.
06:46.29 brlcad server may go down any day now, so I'll be propagating DNS updates to new IP real soon now
06:46.51 brlcad alas, this may not be as graceful as originally planned for some of the hosted domains
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11:36.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67612 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/RaytraceWizard.tcl: unit is integer face count multiple, not mm
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13:28.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67613 (brlcad/trunk/include/dm/bview.h brlcad/trunk/include/rt/view.h and 5 others): Since the number is arbitrary anyway, just go with number of bot faces to be more intuitive.
13:39.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67614 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/MGEDpage.itk: tweak dialog label
13:45.21 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67615 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/MGEDpage.itk: note zero turns it off
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14:31.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67616 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/MGEDpage.itk: When trying to actually use them, the graphical slider widgets made it difficult to set an exact az/el numerical value. Provide a textual entry instead that allows precise view specification - for more casual view setups, graphical interaction with the MGED object handles things better.
15:17.25 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67617 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/BRLCAD_CPackOptions.cmake.in: Fix quoting - quote just path, not path + variable. Was breaking make package target.
15:46.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67618 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/BRLCAD_CPackOptions.cmake.in: TGZ generators may be generating either source packages or binary packages - only do the source_archive piece if CPACK_INSTALLED_DIRECTORIES indicates this is a package_source assembly.
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16:04.31 XoitX Hello
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16:08.16 ries_nicked Hello XoitX
16:08.22 XoitX Hi
16:08.47 XoitX This IRC channel is related to the cad modeling software right?
16:09.49 XoitX I'm trying to find some or any resources to find out what brl cad is all about
16:09.52 XoitX but I can't
16:10.06 XoitX no videos on youtube or anything
16:10.18 XoitX Can someone help?
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16:39.27 XoitX Can anyone let me in on the advantages of CSG over Brep? Why is BRL CAD so invisible on the internet?
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17:15.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67619 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/BRLCAD_CPackOptions.cmake.in: create the stamp file, null out install prefix regardless.
17:15.50 starseeker XoitX: did you look at http://brlcad.org
17:16.37 XoitX Yea but no real video examples
17:17.16 XoitX Why is it different from freecad ? or is it the same
17:18.21 starseeker very different
17:19.14 starseeker different history, different focus
17:20.05 starseeker open source CAD is obscure enough that you won't find a tremendous amount (relatively speaking) on the web about it
17:20.41 XoitX starseeker: The only thing I found on youtube is promotional videos
17:21.17 XoitX yea It seems interesting that it has a huge history but I don't understand why no one talks of it on the internet
17:21.47 starseeker BRL-CAD's interface is very difficult to learn and quite basic by modern standards, so it doesn't lend itself to impressive videos
17:22.01 XoitX hmmm
17:22.14 XoitX Do i need to learn programming to use it?
17:22.17 starseeker I'd suggest reading the Volume II tutorial lessons
17:22.25 starseeker that'll give you a basic idea
17:22.51 starseeker http://brlcad.org/w/images/c/cf/Introduction_to_MGED.pdf
17:22.57 XoitX Is it powerful like solidworks?
17:23.01 XoitX okay will do
17:23.04 XoitX Thanks :D
17:35.38 XoitX hmmm so it's modeling of systems with functions and relations?!!
17:52.06 XoitX Did I get the relations part wrong?
18:30.04 brlcad XoitX: there are no parametrics (so far), but you can create geometry with functions that maintain relationships
18:30.18 brlcad several examples on procedural geometry
18:30.40 XoitX so I can use relations throughout the entire model?
18:31.14 XoitX and they will vary with a single variable change?
18:32.04 XoitX The model I mean
18:33.15 brlcad only if you write a procedure, so "no, not yet" is probably the answer you need unless you know how to script :)
18:33.59 brlcad we're working towards that of course and have some of the necessary infrastructure, but our focus is on our interface usability currently
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19:21.50 XoitX Yea , that is terribly lacking
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20:42.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67620 (brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/RtImage.tcl): Work on making the new setup robust to paths with spaces
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23:01.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67621 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/RtImage.tcl: remove debug printing
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23:42.09 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67622 brlcad/trunk/src/rtwizard/main.c: Normalize paths to be used in tcl scripts for Tcl, not file system.

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