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| 03:14.15 | brlcad | hey Freso, not opposed to dropping py2 support -- most of the scaffolding in there was simply written to match Robert's other API scripts |
| 03:14.58 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: that's awesome. please let me know if you have questions or are interested in getting involved in contributing to the project |
| 03:19.18 | brlcad | BRL-CAD was apparently on Hacker News a month ago, front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21148247 |
| 03:31.42 | TheJollyRoger | Hi hi! |
| 03:31.55 | TheJollyRoger | Hi brlcad! |
| 03:32.49 | TheJollyRoger | Well... I'm er... I'm er not much for programming yet, at this moment, not yet. I'm hoping to learn Java although I don't know how useful this will be at this very moment. But I'd really really like to learn brl cad since it would be great to have something open source and portable that could run on non-x86 PCs. |
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| 04:33.42 | brlcad | testing |
| 04:33.55 | cadzulip_zulip | @**Sean**: woot |
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| 04:40.23 | brlcad | cad_zulip: ping |
| 04:43.31 | brlcad | testing2 |
| 04:47.48 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy! |
| 04:48.09 | TheJollyRoger | brlcad/Sean, I can see your pings and testing posts, what's up there? |
| 04:49.23 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Hi TheJollyRoger! I'm working on setting up a bridge to our Zulip chat. |
| 04:49.40 | TheJollyRoger | Ahoy! :D |
| 04:49.47 | TheJollyRoger | Woah, wow! A bridge to another chat, that's awesome! |
| 04:50.01 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: that way, messages are bidirectional |
| 04:50.08 | TheJollyRoger | That'll be great to reach out and meet more people, I'm looking forward to it ^_^! |
| 04:50.23 | TheJollyRoger | Ooh. They can see us, and we can see them? |
| 04:50.32 | brlcad | a tiny bit clunky with the way it has to relay nick names, but looks like it's working well. |
| 04:50.57 | TheJollyRoger | Woohoo! |
| 04:51.24 | brlcad | think they can only see people that talk |
| 04:51.44 | TheJollyRoger | Got it, and us, likewise? We only see them if they say something? |
| 04:55.03 | brlcad | yes |
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| 04:55.47 | TheJollyRoger | Got it. |
| 04:58.10 | TheJollyRoger | Sometime when I have more time I'm going to dig into the BRL CAD documentation. I'll have a ton of questions, I just want to make sure I get up to date on the knowledge base so I can ask the right ones. |
| 04:59.47 | brlcad | Sure thing, ask away. |
| 05:00.42 | TheJollyRoger | THanks ^_^. I don't have any particular questions at this moment, I've just been fooling around with MGED so far and wondering if there's anything like a graphical frontend to it, since I'm used to doing sketching and extrusion and sweep operations in Creo and NX. |
| 05:00.52 | TheJollyRoger | Heh, okay, I guess that is a question XP. |
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| 05:09.49 | brlcad | TheJollyRoger: MGED's graphical side is drastically different from Creo and NX. You can do many of the same things, but usually not as easily and often not as interactively with a mouse. |
| 05:10.12 | TheJollyRoger | Ooh, yipes, got it. That's good to know it's still possible, even if it won't be as convenient or interactive. |
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| 05:15.35 | brlcad | BRL-CAD also focuses on 3d solid modeling techniques, and sketching comes from the 2d drafting realm. That said, you can check out the Sketch Editor on the menu for basic editing. They can be extruded with an "extrude" object, revolved with a "revolv" object. |
| 05:15.55 | TheJollyRoger | Oh perfect. |
| 05:16.11 | brlcad | *revolve |
| 05:16.37 | brlcad | this is a non-GUI overview of sketch: pip install -r zulip/integrations/bridge_with_irc/requirements.txt |
| 05:16.40 | brlcad | Configure the bridge |
| 05:16.48 | brlcad | oop, this link: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Sketch |
| 05:16.57 | TheJollyRoger | reads |
| 05:17.01 | brlcad | and extrude: https://brlcad.org/wiki/Extrude |
| 05:18.46 | TheJollyRoger | MGED almost reminds me a little of using APT for tool paths. |
| 05:18.53 | TheJollyRoger | Almost. Kinda. A little bit maybe. |
| 05:19.29 | brlcad | yeah, that's a very low-level overview. There's a graphical tutorial somewhere where you don't hit the command line, but I don't have it handy. |
| 05:19.48 | TheJollyRoger | Got it. I'll search around then! |
| 05:20.58 | brlcad | the "ebm" extruded bitmap primitive is a distant cousin. it's definitely covered in the Principles of Effective Modeling at https://brlcad.org/wiki/Documentation |
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| 05:24.06 | TheJollyRoger | Whew. I'll have to study this, then! |
| 05:24.14 | TheJollyRoger | Ehehe. I'm kinda nervous. |
| 05:25.23 | TheJollyRoger | Not gonna lie, the tools and UI do look kinda intimidating. I generally use the commandline for most of my day-to-day tasks on the OS but trying to fly blind is a little... I dunno, it's gonna mean I'll have to really think the design through up front instead of just throwing down a sketch and then adjusting it to size later. |
| 05:26.27 | brlcad | Yes, it's conceptually quite a different method altogether. |
| 05:26.56 | TheJollyRoger | Yeah. |
| 05:27.22 | brlcad | Expert modelers tell me they're just as proficient if not more proficient as they are in other CAD, but the learning curve is definitely steep and the methods are different, often incompatible. |
| 05:28.13 | brlcad | We're working on usability and core features that affect it, but it's going to be a process and it takes time to implement every (seemingly little) feature. |
| 05:28.48 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Testing from #**general** |
| 05:29.09 | gci_zulip | @**Sean**: Testing from #**Google Code-in** |
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| 05:30.53 | brlcad | Testing |
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| 05:34.11 | brlcad | all done testing, this looks like a usable bridge even if it is limited to individual streams. added one on the gci channel just in case since chatter on that will be kicking up real soon. |
| 05:34.18 | TheJollyRoger | Woohoo! |
| 09:11.32 | Freso | brlcad: Alright. I probably wonât touch the script again before January now though, so weâll see. :p |
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| 12:32.29 | brlcad | Freso: that's a really cool patch; didn't even occur to me to use it for the inverse |
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| 23:28.27 | Freso | brlcad: :) |