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Just wondering, but why has the site at beta.brlcad.org not replaced the one at brlcad.org yet? It's more user-friendly to varying sizes and is overall just better.

Mahdi (Jan 06 2018 at 17:55):

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 07:09):

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 07:11):

@Jeff Sieu also because there are a few nitpick issues like how "SOLID MODELING" gets wrapped across lines and hovering over it pulls the entire bottom portion of the page up.

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 07:12):

beta holds the github/web repo, so if you want to directly fix those three issues, it could go live

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 08:47):

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 09:00):

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 09:02):

Like for example for larger screens, the one at the github repo doesn't add padding at the sides:
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old

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 10:26):

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 18:20):

will do @Jeff Sieu ... the repo is actually a bit "ahead" of beta -- stopped pulling updates after the menu diverged

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 18:21):

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 18:22):

In the pull request I made changes such that it now currently reflects the look at beta.brlcad.org, essentially fast forwarding the repo, if you will

Jeff Sieu (Jan 07 2018 at 18:23):

Sean (Jan 07 2018 at 18:27):

Naseef (Mar 26 2018 at 22:23):

Here's my pull : https://github.com/BRL-CAD/web/pull/22
I didn't want to mess around with the HTML files because I don't know,
Someone else have to fix that, Or I can fix that after I learn a bit more about that.

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 01:17):

@Naseef your pull added the files (thanks!), but I meant actually update the images in the html to use the svg too. requires some protection like described in https://css-tricks.com/using-svg/ so it'll fall back to png if there is no svg support (win7, ie8)

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 01:45):

we'll have to reconcile the differences @Jeff Sieu ... @Oleksandr Dubenko similarly had about 60 unpushed commits sitting on beta. maybe the two of you can talk and figure out the best way to merge the two works?

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 05:57):

I just finished getting both set up side by side (along with one from a gci student). 'master' dir is exactly master state and 'oleksandr' dir still has unpushed local changes that need to be reconciled

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 07:54):

@Sean I've been reading the exact same article last night, But I don't have much experience working with HTML, So I've been doing some local projects to test things before making changes to the HTML file on my fork. I'll try to make a pr within an hour.

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 07:55):

And I also have to update the PNG files to support IE. I've heard supporting IE is the worst thing in web development, I'll figure it out today.

Oleksandr Dubenko (Mar 27 2018 at 08:20):

I open to talk. I think we should pick one version, sync it with master and go from there

Oleksandr Dubenko (Mar 27 2018 at 08:23):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 08:24):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 08:41):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 09:06):

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:05):

done and merged. make sure you git pull first next time. there was a conflict. looks great!

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:09):

Thanks, I'm still new to git so I don't understand much about that, I assume there was a change made in main repo after I forked it.

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:24):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:29):

The beta versions looks good on Chrome and Opera on mobile. brlcad.org is broken though.

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:37):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:39):

Beta version looks good, IMO menu button should be moved right.
beta.brlcad.org.png

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:43):

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:44):

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:45):

My biggest concern is still the menu. I like the main page menu more than beta's.

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 13:47):

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:47):

the logo in the center is more prominent and balanced, at least on the main page. It could be in the corner on other pages, but I think the idea of "circles" indicating the current menu focus is a good one.

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 13:51):

It's alright. It has some problems like the corner menu linking back to wiki main instead of home, and it's a different menu (support/gallery replaced with get involved) which is disconcerting.

Cezar (Mar 27 2018 at 14:08):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 14:08):

Cezar (Mar 27 2018 at 14:09):

Cezar (Mar 27 2018 at 14:23):

Oleksandr Dubenko (Mar 27 2018 at 19:12):

Naseef (Mar 27 2018 at 20:36):

Most websites have their logo in top left corner, I think people are used to it. We may have another big logo under the navigation bar if needed.

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 21:59):

Most yes, but not all.. consider intel.com and google.com for example ;) Also don't think it's confusing if it's part of a design and not your typical thin menu (thin menu is fine for secondary pages or scrolled if persistent).

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 22:01):

Sean (Mar 27 2018 at 22:03):

it probably should be until we get bidirectional syncing working, where the pdf files and documentation are generated during compilation and merely imported/referenced by mediawiki

Naseef (Mar 28 2018 at 06:06):

@Sean Look at https://design.google/
The logo goes from center to left when scrolling down, It looks great.

Sean (Mar 29 2018 at 03:17):

Naseef (Mar 29 2018 at 06:43):

Sean (Mar 30 2018 at 16:49):

Daniel Rossberg (May 17 2018 at 11:03):

brlcad.org uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate expired on 15.05.2018 15:25. The current time is 17.05.2018 12:58.
Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

Armin (LordOfBikes) (May 17 2018 at 12:17):

Sean (May 18 2018 at 03:50):

Sean (May 18 2018 at 03:51):

Daniel Rossberg (May 22 2019 at 17:32):

brlcad.org uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate expired on 22.05.2019 19:20. The current time is 22.05.2019 19:25.
Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

Daniel Rossberg (May 22 2019 at 17:34):

Sean (May 22 2019 at 17:34):

Damn , thanks @Daniel Rossberg. Need to set up a recurring calendar notice. I thought we just updated this past winter.

Sean (May 22 2019 at 17:34):

Daniel Rossberg (May 22 2019 at 17:38):

Sean (May 22 2019 at 17:40):

Sean (May 22 2019 at 17:41):

Sean (May 22 2019 at 17:42):

Sean (May 23 2019 at 03:09):

Daniel Rossberg (Jun 23 2019 at 16:23):

Sean (Jun 24 2019 at 04:34):

@Daniel Rossberg Yes the wiki is down at the moment. There was a security incident on the website. I’ve been working on resolving it but it’s taking some time. The main page was just repaired yesterday. There was a vulnerability in an Atlassian Bamboo instance that had been left in the web root. Fortunately the damage was contained but having to restore from backups.

Quentin Paden (Jun 24 2019 at 21:39):

@Sean Awesome I am glad you were able to get the wiki to be back without restoring an older backup! Much appreciated.

Sean (Jun 25 2019 at 13:03):

Glad you noticed. I did have to restore files from backup, but the database fortunately remained unaffected so most content was fine.

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:27):

Wow! The website is still not updated.
Is there something I can help with? @Sean I remember you asking me to manage the site or something.
web development is not something I am good at but if there's no one else to take care of it, I'll try my best.

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:28):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:29):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:29):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:29):

It is working fine, I still don't see the changes I saw back in early 2018 in the beta site.

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:30):

Ah! Yes, this is true -- and is because there's not a dedicated website admin at the moment (still).

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:30):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:31):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:31):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:33):

As I said, I am not really good with websites. But I do have plenty of free time these days after school. I'd love to spend that time on something useful. I could even learn something from doing this,

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:33):

What is your web dev experience? The only concern is someone making a mistake as we're only minimally set up with staging areas and protections.

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:33):

You asked me to do it a while back, but I had no idea what I was supposed to do.

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:34):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:34):

I have made and hosted simple websites on my pc... and that's pretty much it I guess.

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:35):

Before you could be granted access to the production server, you'd have to make some contributions and show you can communicate changes. But this is actually pretty easy.

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:35):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:35):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:36):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:37):

I would suggest starting out by checking out the existing website from git, and see if you can get it working locally for you.

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:37):

If you can, next would be to make and submit some small change just to show you can submit changes.

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:38):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:42):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:43):

Core developers have been spread thin working on our new NURBS support. It's been a major effort.

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 21:45):

Sean (Oct 28 2019 at 21:45):

Naseef (Oct 28 2019 at 23:44):

How big is the site actually? I'd like to make some free space before cloning if it's more than ~500mb

Naseef (Oct 29 2019 at 00:05):

Sean (Oct 29 2019 at 00:24):

Really, that big? I would have guessed a couple megs but there may be some extra data stashed in there for images and such.

Sean (Oct 29 2019 at 06:58):

once you're done with that, I suggest going through two tutorials -- one for jekyll and another for siteleaf. a long-term plan is to migrate the entire website to a static site generator (e.g., jekyll) and provide easy online editing for non-technical authors (via siteleaf).

Aniruddha Ghadge (Oct 29 2019 at 13:27):

I am a newbie here and have knowledge about C/C++ programming. I would like to contribute to your organization as a beginner . Can anyone help me out there ?

Sean (Oct 29 2019 at 13:46):

hello @Aniruddha Ghadge and welcome! Absolutely. I suggest starting with the tutorials so you get familiar with some of the basic tools like mged and rt, then we can talk about some minor coding excursion.

Aniruddha Ghadge (Oct 29 2019 at 14:12):

Sounds great ! @Sean where can I found out tutorials ?.... or should I directly google about it ?

Naseef (Oct 30 2019 at 00:10):

Naseef (Oct 30 2019 at 00:11):

I've been watching a lot of tutorials since I talked yesterday, I'll get the site running soon.

Naseef (Oct 30 2019 at 00:42):

Okay, I am thinking of spending the next couple of days creating a website with Jekyll and Siteleaf. I want to get familiar with these and watching a tutorial or two won't be enough.

Suryansh Pathak (Oct 30 2019 at 04:29):

Hey guys i am new here . got to know about you guys from GCI organization page . I have previously use blender(i knows it's very different from car but still). How can i start learning and contributing

Suryansh Pathak (Oct 30 2019 at 08:11):

Sean (Nov 04 2019 at 21:54):

@Suryansh Pathak I suggest starting with the "HACKING BRL-CAD" contributor's guide and start by making some contributions.

Naseef (Nov 08 2019 at 10:23):

Sean (Nov 08 2019 at 13:43):

@Naseef What was the problem? It's pretty much a static site, so was it some problem starting apache?

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 19 2019 at 19:44):

Sean (Dec 20 2019 at 04:19):

heh, thanks @Daniel Rossberg. Curiously, the cronjob that was set up last year has been running, and the certificate was updated, but apache apparently hadn't needed to restart since it renewed.

Erik (Feb 08 2020 at 13:52):

I'd like to complain about the wiki captcha, "how many hands are you holding up when your hand is in your pocket" is 2, damnit. program is wrong.

Thusal Ranawaka (Feb 08 2020 at 14:33):

Thusal Ranawaka (Feb 08 2020 at 14:50):

Erik (Feb 08 2020 at 18:03):

Sean (Feb 08 2020 at 18:05):

just a while ago, I noticed the captcha seemed to be failing for anonymous users even when the answer is right...

Erik (Feb 08 2020 at 18:05):

When a hand is in your pocket, the other... is waving a peace sign, right? Too 90's?

Erik (Feb 08 2020 at 18:06):

Sean (Feb 08 2020 at 18:07):

Sean (Feb 08 2020 at 18:08):

I just changed it to "How many fingers are you holding up when both your hands are in pockets?" (added "both" and "pockets" plural to clarify)

Sean (Feb 08 2020 at 18:09):

/me was rather pleased with "What is the dot product of [1, 2, 1] with [7, 2, 4]?" ... I have to do the math every damn time.

Erik (Mar 22 2020 at 23:09):

soooo, status seems to be in a mucked up redirection loop for logging in, izzat new? I'm not using jenkins, I commented out my chunk.

Sean (Mar 24 2020 at 20:22):

@Erik yes, probably. What redirection? Did you change it? (I ask because it looks like www redirection no longer works.)

Sean (Mar 24 2020 at 20:24):

there is some configuration issue that is/was locking up the web server that I haven't chased down yet; but whatever you commented out seems to stop the badness.

Sean (Mar 24 2020 at 20:26):

Erik (Mar 24 2020 at 21:14):

I didn't change it to my knowledge before seeing redirect loops. I was doing stuff in my conf file, though.

Sean (Mar 25 2020 at 02:09):

server was giving some seriously mysterious stalls. after trying to get it responsive for over an hour, rebooted and seems to be back up smooth. maybe the disk drives are acting up. time to get one last level 0 and fix the hard drive.

Sean (Mar 25 2020 at 02:49):

looks like we may have been running habitually low on memory with lots of databases gobbling up as much as we could give, and the VM system was unable to page out due to high disk utilization. we'll want to keep an eye on memory usage and dial the databases back a bit. once we get on a new drive, I'll look into getting a memory upgrade.

Erik (Mar 25 2020 at 11:25):

heh, I may've contributed to instability starting back on hmmm, december 31st at 10pm, looks like? seems the upgrade worked O:-)

Sean (Mar 25 2020 at 18:43):

Sean (Mar 25 2020 at 18:44):

Turns out I had a nearly complete level 0 that just finished updating the newly changed files. Will purge the newly deleted and then contact them to fix the hard drive.

Daniel Rossberg (Nov 11 2020 at 12:33):

#0 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/libs/rdbms/loadbalancer/LoadBalancer.php(769): Wikimedia\Rdbms\LoadBalancer->reportConnectionError()
#1 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(2694): Wikimedia\Rdbms\LoadBalancer->getConnection(0, Array, false)
#2 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/localisation/LCStoreDB.php(54): wfGetDB(-1)
#3 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/localisation/LocalisationCache.php(410): LCStoreDB->get('en', 'deps')
#4 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/localisation/LocalisationCache.php(456): LocalisationCache->isExpired('en')
#5 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/localisation/LocalisationCache.php(375): LocalisationCache->initLanguage('en')
#6 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/localisation/LocalisationCache.php(294): LocalisationCache->loadSubitem('en', 'messages', 'title-invalid-e...')
#7 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/languages/Language.php(2655): LocalisationCache->getSubitem('en', 'messages', 'title-invalid-e...')
#8 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(970): Language->getMessage('title-invalid-e...')
#9 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(928): MessageCache->getMessageForLang(Object(LanguageEn), 'title-invalid-e...', false, Array)
#10 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/cache/MessageCache.php(870): MessageCache->getMessageFromFallbackChain(Object(LanguageEn), 'title-invalid-e...', false)
#11 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/Message.php(1299): MessageCache->get('title-invalid-e...', false, Object(LanguageEn))
#12 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/Message.php(851): Message->fetchMessage()
#13 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/Message.php(943): Message->toString('text')
#14 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/title/MalformedTitleException.php(49): Message->text()
#15 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/title/MediaWikiTitleCodec.php(297): MalformedTitleException->__construct('title-invalid-e...', '')
#16 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/Title.php(3752): MediaWikiTitleCodec->splitTitleString('', 0)
#17 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/Title.php(377): Title->secureAndSplit()
#18 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/MediaWiki.php(83): Title::newFromURL('')
#19 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/MediaWiki.php(140): MediaWiki->parseTitle()
#20 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/MediaWiki.php(776): MediaWiki->getTitle()
#21 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/includes/MediaWiki.php(517): MediaWiki->main()
#22 /usr/web/brlcad.org/w/index.php(42): MediaWiki->run()
#23 {main}

Sean (Nov 11 2020 at 22:51):

Daniel Rossberg (Nov 12 2020 at 07:21):

I got this error yesterday for the wiki main site (https://brlcad.org/wiki/) from two different computers from two different networks.

Sean (Nov 12 2020 at 23:14):

it may have repaired itself automatically with a reset. there's a cronjob watchdog that tries to make sure it's responding properly.

Daniel Rossberg (Nov 25 2020 at 08:51):

FYI: I looks like the wiki is down again. And, I was told that the same happened yesterday.
URL: https://brlcad.org/wiki/
Error message: Cannot access the database
Same backtrace as last time

Sumagna Das (Nov 25 2020 at 08:56):

Thusal Ranawaka (Nov 25 2020 at 13:08):

Sean (Nov 25 2020 at 19:44):

Sean (Nov 25 2020 at 19:45):

It's fixed for now. The server ran out of disk space. There's a new kernel built and a reboot will be needed, but that should free up a lot of space once that happens. For now, I blew away a couple particularly large files.

Stream: brlcad

Topic: BRL-CAD website

Jeff Sieu (Jan 06 2018 at 17:51):

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