Stream: Google Code-in

Topic: 404 Custom Page Task


view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 10 2017 at 21:47):

Hi can you please answer me some questions?

view this post on Zulip Naseef (Dec 11 2017 at 00:12):

Hello, @Francisco Fernandes , Ask your question here, Mentors will probably answer your questions soon.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 13:10):

I need to ask if I can create an issue on the github repository of the site, to upload a pull request of the custom page that I have created

view this post on Zulip Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 11 2017 at 13:21):

@Francisco Fernandes there is no need for a pull request, you should upload your work to the task to get it reviewed by a mentor. Don't forget to submit for review :wink:

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 13:35):

@LordOfBikes I know that it is not supposed to do a PR, but I wanted to because your current page doesn't have one and that can be called an issue, you know what I mean?

view this post on Zulip Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 11 2017 at 14:04):

@Francisco Fernandes OK, understood.
Generally you don't have to ask to open a pull request, but in this case, it's a little premature, isn't it?
We have multiple instances of this task and I think there is no need to take action before the contest is over.
You are not the only one claiming this task, so to finish first, you have to finish first :grin:
Concentrate on creating an amazing site, discuss it with the mentors in the task to get approved and take your chance.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 15:52):

@LordOfBikes Ok I will, thank you for your time

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 16:18):

@Francisco Fernandes it's not a bad idea to create a pull request, but I agree that you should get the task reviewed first -- design tasks in particular often go through many reviews and revisions before being accepted. If you want to make a pull request and submit that for your task reviews, that's fine -- but you can just as well submit your files too and ask once it's approved or see if the mentor asks.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 18:38):

@Sean Ok I will do that, as soon as I have something, I will contact you! Thank you :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 19:21):

I need help. I needed to clone your github repo into my pc because I want to implement a thing that you did. The problem is that my anti-virus detected virus on your repository and I'm kind of scared tbh. Just to check, your repo is this one: https://github.com/BRL-CAD/web ?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 20:47):

@Francisco Fernandes a couple antivirus makers have false positive reports on brl-cad source code -- what's the report?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 20:48):

github is for the web and ogv tasks -- is that what's reporting as having a virus?? that's highly unusual.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:46):

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view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:47):

Actually this is quite unusual, how can it detect trojan? @Sean

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:48):

what is the rest of that path?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:49):

those filenames do look suspicious

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:49):

also what repo is that?

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:50):

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view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:50):

The repo is: https://github.com/BRL-CAD/web

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:51):

ahhhh

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:51):

so yeah, those are mediawiki files (that were uploaded and subsequently deleted)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:52):

nothing to worry about right?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:54):

nothing to worry about as long as you don't try to open those files -- it's also fine for your AV to quarantee them

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:55):

basically, those are files for the website, malware uploaded by malicious users -- the uploads get detected and deleted

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:55):

everything gets checked into the repository

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:56):

Don't worry, I already have what I wanted from de HTML file, now I'm doing the custom page, should be completely done tomorrow

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:56):

it'd be good to scrub the actual files from the repo, but would have to look up and see if there's a process for that

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 22:56):

thanks for bringing it to attention, though -- that is the kind of thing you should ask about :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 11 2017 at 22:57):

Thank you for your help and no problem, I'll have to go to sleep, I'll talk to you later :)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 23:07):

if you figure out how to remove bad files from mediawiki and can point us to a page, we could create a task to do that work

view this post on Zulip Mahdi (Dec 11 2017 at 23:30):

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view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 11 2017 at 23:30):

wrong stream

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 12 2017 at 14:46):

@Sean I don't know if this can help because I don't really know what is exactly a mediawiki file and how it works, but check this site and see if it's what you want: http://devharbor.blogspot.com/2010/03/deleting-uploaded-files-from-mediawiki.html

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 12 2017 at 16:02):

I'm kind of lost on this project, what do you think of the result so far? @Sean and other mentorsSem-Título.png

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 12 2017 at 16:07):

I think it's quite simple, I don't know... I would like some suggestions/critics for the design :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 12 2017 at 16:07):

And yes, I will do a custom button to go to the homepage

view this post on Zulip Panda (Gauravjeet Singh) (Dec 12 2017 at 16:44):

Hey Francisco, it's not that bad though, I like minimal designs. Read the following link, it would help you in effectively design a 404 page.
https://designshack.net/articles/inspiration/what-makes-a-great-404-error-page/

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 12 2017 at 20:20):

Thank you, when you say "it's not that bad" means you don't like it too much, am I correct? @Panda (Gauravjeet Singh)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 13 2017 at 05:04):

@Francisco Fernandes that is close, thanks

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 13 2017 at 05:10):

@Francisco Fernandes that's looking pretty nice -- like how you tied it to the existing theme

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 13 2017 at 05:11):

some of the best 404 sites make you smile or do something fun or are still "helpful" in some other way despite not finding the page they wanted

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 13 2017 at 05:12):

I'd suggest deciding on which of those approaches speak the most strongly to you, and then focusing there

view this post on Zulip Panda (Gauravjeet Singh) (Dec 13 2017 at 05:48):

Not exactly. What I meant here was that this design isn't complete but you are going in right direction. You need to complete the design in order to get it approved.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 14 2017 at 21:53):

some of the best 404 sites make you smile or do something fun or are still "helpful" in some other way despite not finding the page they wanted

What about this? @Sean Sem-Título.png

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 14 2017 at 22:22):

@Amritpal Singh @Sean @LordOfBikes I improved my design, still I think that something is missing, can you say if it's nice or the opposite?Sem-Título.png

view this post on Zulip Amritpal Singh (Dec 15 2017 at 04:17):

@Francisco Fernandes I think everything looks nice. Well done!

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 15 2017 at 23:13):

Hi! I already submitted my task and you aceppted! Now I'm going to talk to you to ask if that page could go to your main website (I'm talking about the beta one beta.brlcad.org). Can I submit an issue and then PR on the github repo of your site? @Sean @Amritpal Singh

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 15 2017 at 23:15):

Hi! I already submitted my task and you aceppted! Now I'm going to talk to you to ask if that page could go to your main website (I'm talking about the beta one beta.brlcad.org). Can I submit an issue and then PR on the github repo of your site? @Sean @Amritpal Singh

I'll add a task to clean up a couple very minor points and submit a PR, so you get proper credit and it gets polished. One thing to fix is to make sure the logo aligns with the BRL-CAD text in the upper left corner. Another is the duplicative "go to the homepage" followed by a big button saying the same.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 15 2017 at 23:17):

I will work on that. I have to go to sleep now. I can't code tomorrow, I will be out on an event, on sunday afternoon I can do that stuff and then PR. Thank you

view this post on Zulip Mitesh (Dec 16 2017 at 09:02):

Hi everyone...
For this task is it compulsory to submit a css or html or js file... Can't we submit a .png or jpeg file that shows the design of the page?

view this post on Zulip Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 16 2017 at 09:56):

@Mitesh you're always welcome to submit a screen shot for design tasks, even if it's not asked for. This gives us the opportunity to see what you see. In case the source files doesn't look well with another browser e.g., we can see, that it was well for you and track this down.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 15:34):

I'll add a task to clean up a couple very minor points and submit a PR, so you get proper credit and it gets polished. One thing to fix is to make sure the logo aligns with the BRL-CAD text in the upper left corner. Another is the duplicative "go to the homepage" followed by a big button saying the same.

What do you mean with "logo aligns with the BRL-CAD text in the upper left corner". The logo and the text are "fixed" (position: absolute), so they don't move. Besides that, I want to show you my tweaks to the page.
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view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 15:36):

The image is CC0 Creative Commons licensed, and also I edited it on Photoshop

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 15:42):

I think I know what you are talking about, I need to remove the padding to be 100% vertical align

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 15:42):

If that's the case, it's fixed

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 16:09):

Ok now I get it what you tried to say, although is 100% vertical align now, it seems it's not align, I will need help on that @Sean

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 17 2017 at 16:09):

Forget my previous 2 messages

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 05:16):

it might be a browser difference I was seeing. like the other changes except for the big x... that's conventionally a big button. does clicking the x do anything?

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 10:17):

No, I thought it would be good to implement

view this post on Zulip Jeff Sieu (Dec 19 2017 at 10:29):

i feel that having a cross makes it rather misleading -- as if its there prompting for user input -- compared to the conventional "404" that we're used to. just my opinion tho

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 13:58):

Yeah it's a good opinion. I wanted to implement something on the page because I personally think that something is missing, idk...

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:05):

@Francisco Fernandes your intuition is good there -- something is missing, but just probably not an X that looks like a button ;)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:06):

@Sean Thank you :) I will search on the Internet and try to see some examples of 404 pages

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:06):

something 3D graphics related that conveys "something is missing" would be good, but it'd take some creativity to figure something out

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:07):

In the same position of the cross?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:10):

hm ?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:11):

oh, you mean in the same position as the "circle-x", yeah probably, possibly, don't know, depends ;)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:11):

yes

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:12):

what about a thinking emoji with 3D graphics?

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:14):

thinking-face_1f914.png This one with some 3D effects

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:15):

I think only if you actually made it out of BRL-CAD geometry :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:16):

I think I have an idea with the emoji, I will do it and then I will show to you

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:17):

a tesseract kind of conveys "something isn't here"

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:17):

ok :)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:20):

maybe something like this modeled in 3D http://blogatstvo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/puzzle-wholeness.jpg

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:21):

like a piece of a sphere, put together like a puzzle, but missing a piece

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:26):

oh, or maybe all of the primitives lined up against the wall but one of them is clearly missing

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:27):

I did something quickly to show my idea, I don't really know what you are trying to say, you mean put an image like that on background?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:28):

no, i mean geometrically showing a shape or object or scene where something is missing

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:29):

you could do that with 4 puzzle pieces making a square, you could do that possibly with a tessellated sphere that has a piece missing

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:29):

or I'm liking the line-up idea ... show all the primitives down a row like a police line-up, but have one missing

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:30):

That's a good idea, but how can I do it with 3D effects? I don't know how can I do it...

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:31):

Let me show you what I did, it was a quick edit

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:31):

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view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:32):

that looks good, except that head thing has no particular relationship with CAD or 3D

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:32):

I would expect a mascot or other related symbol

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:33):

How can I do something like a mascot with 3D effects?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:33):

for the 3D effect, you just model them in a line and render ... have you done any of the modeling tasks yet?

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:33):

No

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:33):

ahh, that would be the gap then :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:34):

Can you put the link of the task to take a look at it?

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:34):

just search on tutorials

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:34):

there are two tasks, 8 tutorials each

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 14:35):

they only get into the basics, but can be completed really quickly.

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 14:35):

Ok I will take a look at it, thank you :)

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 15:03):

I'm so sorry to say this but I don't really like modelling :white_frowning_face: . I tried a little bit follow the tutorial and I'm not interested in doing that, it's not a thing that I like, you know? My dream is to be a good webdesigner, and this is not my style... There is any other way to do that?

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 15:03):

I'm so sorry

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:04):

It's fine, there are lots of different ways to proceed. Just be aware that it will be a limitation when feedback is given.

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:05):

since a lot of the point of a website is to reflect the community and tools of the community

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:05):

so if you don't know the tools, it will be a challenge to make something relevant and appropriate

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:05):

but I certainly do understand, and it's fine

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 15:06):

Yes I know that. I will try to modelling again later, maybe it's because I need to take a rest. Don't worry, I will make a thing you want, and you will like it :)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:07):

a workaround would be to stick with very simple geometric shapes like spheres, triangles, boxes, etc as they all relate to the domain

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:08):

how to use those basic shapes to denote "missing" becomes an artistic challenge

view this post on Zulip Francisco Fernandes (Dec 19 2017 at 15:09):

I will be back later, to show you something you like, don't worry. Thank you for your time and help :)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:09):

think of images that convey "missing" (as opposed to images that convey confusion)

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:09):

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjfnZnLrZbYAhXSQd8KHfqhCoIQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gettyimages.com%2Fdetail%2Fphoto%2Fone-box-missing-from-rows-of-boxes-on-shelves-royalty-free-image%2F200286517-001&psig=AOvVaw1GL-IKsCrGO1SFfxv3Bafj&ust=1513782544646380

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:14):

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:14):

interesting idea... could just a few sample models with half the model missing

view this post on Zulip Sean (Dec 19 2017 at 15:15):

or something like this cube with one of the cubes missing http://c8.alamy.com/comp/J8GM8M/illustration-shape-plastic-synthetic-material-geometry-abstract-missing-J8GM8M.jpg

view this post on Zulip Mitesh (Dec 19 2017 at 16:52):

hi...can we use 404 3d geometry that we made in brlcad task...

view this post on Zulip Daniel Rossberg (Dec 19 2017 at 17:00):

Sure. This would be an unexpected application of this 404 geometry :wink:

view this post on Zulip Mitesh (Dec 19 2017 at 17:02):

Thank you
Actually my coding with css and html is little weak, also i have prelims as i am studying in class 12th-science
so it will take some time to complete the tasks and submit them.


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