Stream: Google Code-in

Topic: task ideas

Sean (Nov 26 2019 at 05:48):

@Erik Those ideas of your actually look (mostly) really good to me. Several of them are what I'd call a task chain, though. There are few if any that I think I could do in an hour.

Sean (Nov 26 2019 at 05:49):

The coding ones would really benefit from having the entire function signature spelled out for them, so there's no data structure decisions needing to be made and it's just an issue of data/logic inside the function doing what it needs to get the intended result from it.

Sean (Nov 26 2019 at 05:52):

If you need me to help identify like how many subtasks I think there are or what not, let me know, but it would be great if you could write them up and get them submitted into the system.

Sean (Nov 26 2019 at 05:52):

(not planning on touching .bz until after)

Erik (Nov 29 2019 at 15:10):

I plan on uploading a wad today, any csv bulk upload recommendations/conventions?

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 18:05):

bulk upload is done through a json api. I can do the upload if you format the same as one of these: http://brlcad.org/gci/2019/tasks/

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 18:06):

we have a tool that will take a folder like that an upload them all

Erik (Nov 29 2019 at 21:14):

Cool

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 22:48):

@Daniel Rossberg did you want to repeat the alternative GUI tasks again or leave them out?

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 22:49):

(i'm sorting through 2017's tasks for bulk upload)

Daniel Rossberg (Nov 29 2019 at 23:23):

I intended to leave them out, at least for the moment. I've ideas for the new GUI, but they would need some preparations.

I'm working on some Lua tasks at the moment, starting with some small ones. If there are successful I want to add more covering the C++ interface.

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 23:28):

okay, thanks. do you want them uploaded (but not published) just in case or still just wait and see?

Sean (Nov 29 2019 at 23:30):

@Daniel Rossberg also, there were 6 lua tasks from last year. I assume you've already have them recreated. Should I not bulk upload the ones from 2017?

Daniel Rossberg (Nov 29 2019 at 23:40):

Maybe the Lua tasks (upload but not publish). For a sustainable GUI, a kind of display manager is needed, which needs some extra planning.

Erik (Nov 30 2019 at 15:11):

Sean: http://brlcad.org/~erik/gci19/docco/ (generated from template.json_ and the 'types' script, *json should just get products)

Sean (Dec 01 2019 at 05:00):

@Erik Great! There's a lil mistake in the template (command vs primitive), but otherwise looks good. Would like to tweak the description a bit too. I can in the morning and will upload mañana. Can think of a couple other per-primitive templates where this could help...

Erik (Dec 01 2019 at 15:15):

bah, a primitive is a specialized command O:-) Please, update, modify, alter, that's why the source files are provided :)

Sean (Dec 01 2019 at 15:16):

they should all be commands -- that's a set of tasks in itself :)

Erik (Dec 01 2019 at 15:59):

'k, I uploaded a handful of tasks, published, but only putting one slot on each, I welcome review/alteration from anyone.
If anyone wants me to review their tasks, lemme know :)

Erik (Dec 01 2019 at 16:00):

I have some epic's in mind and will add follow-on tasks as dependencies are met. Boosh.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 01 2019 at 17:42):

This https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/4935361470398464/ published task is a bit outdated. That's why, I wrote this one: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6231536060334080/ (yet unpublished).

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 01 2019 at 18:10):

'k, I uploaded a handful of tasks, published, but only putting one slot on each, I welcome review/alteration from anyone.
If anyone wants me to review their tasks, lemme know :)

I recommend to give the tasks in principle multiple instances, even if only one of them will be used in the code or documentation. This way, the tasks can't be blocked by a student. If you get a satisfying result, you can reduce the instance count such that the task becomes unavailable later on.

I gave mine 3 instances.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 05:05):

I think 2-3 instances for the coding tasks is a good idea. It will keep up lots of variety and allow the competitive ones to shine.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 08:06):

bumped them all up to 3 instances.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 08:07):

@Erik I expanded on several of the new tasks, but left a couple unpublished because they needed more background info. it wasn't clear to me what you were going for on at least one of them.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 08:55):

@Sahibpreet Kaur now that you have access as a mentor, do you think you can write up a task for the document?

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 09:01):

I'm thinking something along the lines of "do this tutorial and then submit feedback stating at least 1 thing you'd keep, 1 thing you'd remove, 1 thing you'd change, and 1 thing you'd add". can ask for the feedback as text or can use our general feedback form: https://forms.gle/bXXZ4C97jM4rX2y3A

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 12:51):

@Sean , @Kartik kumar is wondering about the LibreCAD tasks status. Is there anything obscure with them?
I subscribed him to this stream now and I think he should be added to the #mentors (private) too for the contest.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:00):

There are 10 LibreCAD tasks. Shall I publish all of them?

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 13:21):

@Daniel Rossberg , I see 12 tasks from Kartik and 3 are already published. So we were wondering if there is anything obscure with the remaining 9 or probably Sean want's to hold them back until the beginner tasks are claimed?

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:30):

OK, recounting I'm getting 18 LibreCAD tasks. First, I saw the block of 10 tasks at the end of the list only.

This one has no tags: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5382361131253760/

Kartik kumar (Dec 02 2019 at 13:32):

Hi @Daniel Rossberg
I added the tags in this task

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 13:33):

I assume the tags were removed because of the comment in the task description.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:34):

If the tasks are okay for you, I can go through and publish them. If I see something odd, I'll tell you.

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 13:35):

This is a pure design task and I agree that we should avoid these kind of tasks as they are really hard to mentor.

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 13:38):

I have checked the other tasks already so from my side you can publish them, except the one without tags.
Of course, if you see any issues, let us know.
Many thanks.

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 13:40):

Iirc, we had community bonding tasks in past. Is there already on for BRLCAD?
Is it OK to add one for LibreCAD or will this confuse the participants?

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:53):

I've published all but the logo task.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:56):

Iirc, we had community bonding tasks in past. Is there already on for BRLCAD?
Is it OK to add one for LibreCAD or will this confuse the participants?

Tasks that require students to supply personal information aren't allowed anymore.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 13:57):

Therefore, we don't have any social media etc. tasks there.

Armin (LordOfBikes) (Dec 02 2019 at 14:10):

Oh yeah, that's right, I remember.

Erik (Dec 02 2019 at 14:40):

Sean (and anyone else interested): fixed up and fleshed out these two, please review
https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6276776293040128/
https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6280970093723648/

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 16:27):

I was holding the second set because there were a few that were full of jargon without any references that explain where to go, but they can be fixed as we go. It's all good.

Erik (Dec 02 2019 at 16:31):

What's up with the Lua tasks?

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 16:56):

There is a community discovery task -- @LordOfBikes you're welcome to add one for LibreCAD. here's what the one for BRL-CAD looks like: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5725415771996160/

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 16:56):

What's up with the Lua tasks?

Daniel is working on a Lua interface to the C++ core interface

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 17:56):

We have two "compile and install BRL-CAD from Subversion checkout" tasks. I don't know if this is optimal, because they could try to do both with one build.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 17:56):

links?

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 17:59):

found them

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 17:59):

Iirc, we had community bonding tasks in past. Is there already on for BRLCAD?
Is it OK to add one for LibreCAD or will this confuse the participants?

Tasks that require students to supply personal information aren't allowed anymore.

@LordOfBikes We have a BRL-CAD community task which doesn't require to supply personal information(?): https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5725415771996160/

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 18:01):

What's up with the Lua tasks?

Daniel is working on a Lua interface to the C++ core interface

The actual Lua tasks are outdated. But maybe, they can serve as templates for new ones.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:14):

I unpublished one of the compiling tasks and updated the other to be more clear.

Sahibpreet Kaur (Dec 02 2019 at 18:16):

@Sean https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5129152877821952/preview/

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:17):

@LordOfBikes I'm going to unset some of the beginner flags - they are only allowed to do 2 beginner tasks. It's not an indication of easy/hard, but supposed to be a relative freebie task to get set up.

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 02 2019 at 18:17):

Hmm, I don't like the "You will probably want these flags when you run CMake" section. Especially "CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release" is bad for developers. And if I check patches, BRLCAD_ENABLE_STRICT is on, of course.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:19):

I think for a beginner task, strict at least should be on. in prior years, we ended up with dozens of confused kids wondering why their build failed. it was discouraging as a first impression.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:20):

don't care about the build type, I think that was just so it ran more smoothly or them or so we could ask them for a benchmark

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:23):

We have our first two tasks claimed.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:27):

Updated the instructions to say default settings are recommended, but that they can set those if they get an error.

Sean (Dec 02 2019 at 18:39):

Sean https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5129152877821952/preview/

@Sahibpreet Kaur published it! That looks great. I also made you a mentor on all the other Doc tasks, but feel free to add/remove yourself as a mentor to any other tasks (it controls notfications).

Sahibpreet Kaur (Dec 02 2019 at 18:40):

Sure. Thanks!

Erik (Dec 06 2019 at 11:54):

Everyone, you should be becoming somewhat familiar with the software as well as the set of available (and interesting) tasks by now. If you are running into issues or think something could be better, discuss and we may agree and create tasks for that. Your fresh eyes are valuable to us! Thank you and good luck :)

Sean (Dec 09 2019 at 16:27):

New tasks added recently including a tasks to enhance EBM primitive and a task to submit work as a github pull request (you get to do that one only once).

Himanshu (Dec 10 2019 at 15:21):

Hey @Sean Can you add a task fixing the hellobrlcad in rt^3 because it doesn't produce output but it seems like it should give an output like printTitle

Himanshu (Dec 10 2019 at 15:21):

h1manshu@asus:~/brlcad/rt^3/build $ tests-bin/printTitle ~/brlcad/brlcad-code/build/share/db/cray.g Cray X-MP section

Himanshu (Dec 10 2019 at 15:22):

h1manshu@asus:~/brlcad/rt^3/build $ tests-bin/hellobrlcad ~/brlcad/brlcad-code/build/share/db/cray.g

Daniel Rossberg (Dec 10 2019 at 22:06):

Hey Sean Can you add a task fixing the hellobrlcad in rt^3 because it doesn't produce output but it seems like it should give an output like printTitle

Done.

Himanshu (Dec 11 2019 at 01:53):

Thanks @Daniel Rossberg :blush:

Sean (Dec 12 2019 at 18:09):

I just published the second set (#7-#12) of appleseed tasks

Sean (Dec 12 2019 at 18:11):

if anyone gets that far, we can create tasks ala cart to introduce parallel rendering, material mappings, and other more advanced issues.

Sean (Dec 18 2019 at 07:22):

FYI GCI STUDENTS: added new tasks to implement object construction functions, model your own checkers game piece, write a gear tutorial, and to implement a simple geometry animation program

Sean (Dec 19 2019 at 08:51):

GCI STUDENTS: a new set of 41 tasks have just been uploaded. these tasks have you demonstrate one of each of BRL-CAD's object types. Part #1 is learn how to create that type and show them, while part #2 (which will be uploaded later) will be to create that same variety using code.

Sean (Dec 27 2019 at 20:41):

GCI STUDENTS: added a new task to model dice as a snap-fit model that can be 3d printed: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/4789335996497920/

Sean (Jan 01 2020 at 07:23):

For anyone that has suggestions on how to improve our installation documentation, I just added a new task where you can submit improvements: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/4880507012120576/

Daniel Rossberg (Jan 02 2020 at 18:04):

I added just a new set of embedding Lua tasks.

Sean (Jan 11 2020 at 07:05):

added a new task to test compilation on the Haiku OS: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5339103755763712/

Sean (Jan 14 2020 at 17:49):

added a new task to implement a piwigo theme for our image gallery: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5619742958682112/

Sean (Jan 17 2020 at 16:17):

added a task to provide examples of all entity types:

Sean (Jan 17 2020 at 16:17):

https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5635841620180992/

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